Mr. SPECTER. Was he ever turned over that you observed while being treated at Parkland Hospital? Mr. GREER. No, sir. I can't recollect him ever being turned over. Mr. SPECTER. Do you have any recollection that he was in fact not turned over? Mr. GREER. No, sir; I couldn't even say. I didn't see them turn him over in any way in my vision, although my back was to him quite often and because I was attending to the door and they could have done it. Mr. SPECTER. Was he on a stretcher at the time he was being worked on at Parkland Hospital? Mr. GREER. I can't remember whether they changed him from a stretcher to a table. I am not sure on that. Mr. SPECTER. Mr. Greer, as to the return of the President's automobile to Washington, do you know how that was accomplished? Mr. GREER. It was driven to Love Field, and put aboard the same C-130 it was taken out on and flown back to Andrews Air Force Base. Mr. SPECTER. Do you know when it was returned from Dallas to the Washington area? Mr. GREER. I believe it was returned shortly after, it left shortly after, the President's plane left, was flown back. Mr. SPECTER. I hand you two photographs marked Commission Exhibit No. 352 and Commission Exhibit No. 353. Do those photographs represent the condition of the back seat of the President's car at some time? Mr. GREER. Yes, sir; they do. Mr. SPECTER. And at what time do those pictures look just as the back seat of the President's car looked? Mr. GREER. It looked like that when it came back from Dallas. Mr. SPECTER. Did it look like that immediately after President Kennedy was removed from the back seat? Mr. GREER. I wasn't there any more, sir. I was with the President after they lifted him out. I didn't see the car after he had been removed. Mr. SPECTER. Did you observe the back seat of the car at any time from the time you arrived at Parkland Hospital until you observed the automobile in Washington? Mr. GREER. No, sir. Mr. SPECTER. On November 23? Mr. GREER. No, sir; I didn't. Mr. SPECTER. By the way, Mr. Greer, how much, approximately, does or did the President's automobile weigh? Mr. GREER. It weighed between--well, for flight reason we said 8,000, but it wasn't that much. It probably was 7,500. We had extra weight on it. Mr. SPECTER. Are you able to tell the Commission the dimensions of the automobile, indicating its length? Mr. GREER. Yes, sir. It is 21 feet 8 inches long. Mr. SPECTER. And how wide? Mr. GREER. I would have to go back for the width on it. I have it all in black and white in the office, but I haven't got it with me in my head right now; I am sorry. Mr. SPECTER. Could three people sit comfortably in the front seat of the automobile? Mr. GREER. Yes, sir; it was wide enough for three. We many times had an aide in there; many times, an aide rode in the front. Mr. SPECTER. Was it as wide or wider than, say, a Cadillac automobile? Mr. GREER. No, sir; it would be probably the same width.