Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. The front seat, the driver, I think his name is Rich. He is always on the Texas Highway Patrol. In the front seat in the middle is Cliff Carter. He is an assistant to the Vice President's staff. (At this point, Representative Boggs withdrew from the hearing room.) Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. On the right-front side was Jerry Kivett. He is one of the agents on the Vice Presidential detail. And in the back seat, behind the driver, was Warren Taylor, and in the back seat on the other side was my agent, Lem Johns. Mr. SPECTER. Do you know how many cars there were in the balance of the motorcade? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. No, sir; I don't. Mr. SPECTER. What was the maximum speed at which the motorcade proceeded from Love Field down to the downtown area of Dallas? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. I doubt if the motorcade ever exceeded 20 miles or 25 miles an hour, and most of the time it was going slower than that. Mr. SPECTER. What was the minimum speed, would you estimate, during that time? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. We actually came to stops during this time. Mr. SPECTER. How many stops? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. More than one. Two or more. Mr. SPECTER. What occurred during the course of those stops, or what prompted them? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. Well, these stops were made by the Presidential car to greet well-wishers, students on one particular occasion, and other groups of well-wishers, that were assembled along the streets. Mr. SPECTER. Did Vice President Johnson greet anyone at those stops? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. He did greet them, but he didn't leave the car, I think. He remained in the car. I got out of the car and stood by the side of it on more than one occasion. He waved at people, and some did run over, and I think he did touch some. But he didn't leave the car. Mr. SPECTER. How far behind the President's followup car did the Vice President's followup car drive? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. The Vice President's followup car? Mr. SPECTER. Pardon me--the Vice President's automobile. Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. We usually stayed on motorcades like this about two or three car lengths behind. Mr. SPECTER. And did your distance on this occasion conform to your customary practice of being that distance behind? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. Yes, sir. Mr. SPECTER. And what is the reason, if any, for staying that distance behind the President's followup car? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. Well, mainly so the crowd can see the Vice President, and he can see them. If you are too close behind the Presidential group, the crowd will be watching the President and will watch him as he goes by, and then they will miss the next man. So it gives the people a chance to recover and look back and see him, and they to see each other. Mr. SPECTER. I show you a photograph which has been marked as Commission Exhibit No. 354, and ask you if you are able to identify what that is a picture of. Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. Yes, sir. Mr. SPECTER. And what does that depict?