Representative FORD. Did they sound on the surface or in the air or couldn't you discern? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. I couldn't say for certain. I don't know. Mr. SPECTER. Now, did you then or have you ever had any contrary impression that the shots might have come from in front as opposed to the rear of the automobile? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. No, sir. Mr. SPECTER. Now, you say that you hit the Vice President's shoulder, and at that time you were indicating your left hand, I believe. Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. Yes, sir. Mr. SPECTER. Which hand did you use in hitting the Vice President's shoulder? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. My left, sir. Mr. SPECTER. And which shoulder of the Vice President did you hit? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. His right, because I turned this way. I turned to my left, with the hand out, and then came into his right shoulder. Mr. SPECTER. And when you moved from the front to the rear seat, would you describe in as much detail as you can your relative position with respect to the position of President Johnson's body? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. Well, the Vice President says that I vaulted over. It was more of a stepping over. And then I sat on top of him, he being crouched down somewhat. Mr. SPECTER. Indicating towards the left? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. He moved towards the center, or towards his left, yes, sir, and down. And then I sat on this portion of his arm here. Mr. SPECTER. Indicating the right upper portion of the arm from elbow to the shoulder? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. Yes, sir; generally. Mr. SPECTER. And what were the positions of the other occupants of the back seat at the time you sat on the Vice President? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. Mrs. Johnson more or less moved into a forward--just moved forward. And Senator Yarborough also moved forward, and possibly he moved over a little to the right. I am not sure. But we were all below the window level of the car. And those two generally were forward. But the Vice President was forward and a little to his left. Mr. SPECTER. In what direction did you look when you were first sitting on the Vice President? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. In what direction did I look? Mr. SPECTER. Yes. Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. Almost all directions. Mr. SPECTER. Did you have a reaction with respect to looking in the direction from which you thought the danger was emanating? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. I think I first looked to the right--but to the right, forward, up, as much as I could scan, and also the people in the Presidential followup car. Because I recall seeing at the time one of our agents, Hickey, who was in the Presidential followup car, in almost a standing position with an AR-15 looking back and up. Mr. SPECTER. Are you able to fix the precise time of the assassination? Mr. YOUNGBLOOD. I would say 12:30. I was to keep the times. The Vice President was asking me if we were running on time, and so forth. And so he asked me how much further, and I would call back to our followup car and ask them how many more miles and so forth.