One is with WFAA which is the Dallas Morning News station, and I believe the other was channel 11, I believe. Mr. SPECTER. Can you position those people in the automobile for us with respect to where each was sitting? (At this point Representative Ford entered the hearing room.) Mr. JACKSON. Tom Dillard and Jim Underwood were in the front seat with the driver. Mr. SPECTER. Can you identify who the driver was? Mr. JACKSON. No, sir. Mr. SPECTER. But he was a sixth individual separate and apart from the five heretofore described? Mr. JACKSON. Yes, sir. And in the back seat were the two I know by sight but I can't remember the names. And I was on the right side of the car. Mr. SPECTER. On the right side of which seat? Mr. JACKSON. Back seat, sitting up on the back of a seat. Mr. SPECTER. What kind of a car was it, sir? Mr. JACKSON. I believe it was a Chevrolet convertible. Mr. SPECTER. Top down? Mr. JACKSON. Yes, sir. Mr. SPECTER. Were you carrying one camera or more than one camera? Mr. JACKSON. Two cameras. Mr. SPECTER. And was one camera loaded at the time you rounded the corner of Main and Houston? Mr. JACKSON. Yes, sir; and one was empty. Mr. SPECTER. Was it from the camera which was empty that you had taken the roll of film which you have just described? Mr. JACKSON. Yes, sir. Mr. SPECTER. All right. Will you now proceed to tell us what happened as you rounded the corner of Main and Houston, please? Mr. JACKSON. Well, as our reporter chased the film out into the street, we all looked back at him and were laughing, and it was approximately that time that we heard the first shot, and we had already rounded the corner, of course, when we heard the first shot. We were approximately almost half a block on Houston Street. Mr. SPECTER. Will you identify for me on Commission Exhibit 347, precisely as possible, where your automobile was at the time you heard the first shot? Mr. JACKSON. Approximately right here, I would say the midpoint of this building. Approximately where we heard the first report. Mr. SPECTER. Now, will you mark in a black "X" on 347 the spot where your car was at the time you heard the first shot?