Mr. ROWLAND. I handed this pen to the officer and I started thinking and I went to him and told him again just before the motorcade came I saw a man in the building with a rifle, and he immediately took me to Sheriff Decker which, in turn, asked two other deputies to take me to his office. We went there to his office. There was quite a few reporters around, such as this. They took my wife and I to a back room and shut us off completely from the reporters and everyone. There was no one in that room for 4 hours but this sheriff and a FBI agent, Agent Sorrels, and a stenographer, and I think another lady and a man that had seen another man carrying a rifle in a case on the other end of town earlier prior to this time. Mr. SPECTER. Are you sure there was a court reporter present? Mr. ROWLAND. It was one of the secretaries from the office of the sheriff, stenographer who was taking, using an electric typewriter every time. Mr. SPECTER. Was she taking down in shorthand---- Mr. ROWLAND. Yes. Mr. SPECTER. As you could observe---- Mr. ROWLAND. Yes. Mr. SPECTER. Each word that you were saying? Mr. ROWLAND. Yes. Mr. SPECTER. Did she have any sort of a machine, such as a stenograph, as the gentleman who is serving as court reporter has? Mr. ROWLAND. No; she took it down in shorthand and retyped it on an electric typewriter that she brought into the room. Mr. SPECTER. Did she type up what you had said? Mr. ROWLAND. Yes; typed up three or four copies and then I signed it at that time. Mr. SPECTER. I now show you a photostatic copy of what purports to be an affidavit which you gave to the Sheriff's Department of the County of Dallas, Tex., on November 22, 1963, and has been marked as Commission Exhibit No. 357. Would you take a look at that, take your time, of course, and tell us whether or not that is the affidavit which you took on the occasion which you have just related? Mr. ROWLAND. Yes. In fact, at this time I also noted that my wife dragged me across the street. Mr. SPECTER. Just one detail on that statement: There is a reference here to the man holding the rifle being in a position which you describe as "a parade-rest sort of position." That appears---- Mr. ROWLAND. It does appear in there? Mr. SPECTER. Eighteen lines down. Mr. ROWLAND. Yes; I see it. It wasn't a parade-rest position. It was a port-arms position. I never noticed that in there before. There were--actually, I will say this, I said what I had to say. The FBI agent reworded it, and she took it down. Now this happened; it wasn't my words verbatim, it was reworded. Mr. SPECTER. Did you ever use the words "parade-rest" position? Mr. ROWLAND. Not to my recollection. Mr. SPECTER. So it is just an error in transcription which you did not notice when you signed it. (At this point, Chief Justice Warren entered the hearing room.)