Mrs. PAINE. No. I made one attempt to have such a conversation and drove out to his home in Denton and talked with his wife. Mr. JENNER. And what occurred then? When was that? Mrs. PAINE. Possibly in January. Mr. JENNER. Of 1964? Mrs. PAINE. Right. Mr. JENNER. Why did you go out there? Mrs. PAINE. I had been writing letters to Marina and receiving no reply, and I wanted to go and talk with both Robert and his wife to inquire what was the best way to be a friend to Marina in this situation, whether it was better to write letters or better not to, whether she wanted to hear from me or whether she didn't, and knowing that they had seen her, I felt they might be able to help me with this. I was told by Mrs. Robert Oswald that Robert had a bad cold, and she didn't want to expose my children who were with me, and she and I talked through the screen, and I explained what I wanted. But I didn't feel helped by the visit. Mr. JENNER. You did not. Mrs. PAINE. No. Mr. JENNER. Did you feel that there was a lack of cordiality? Mrs. PAINE. She apologized for not having me in, and she was friendly and said, "what nice children you have," but it is somewhat hard to communicate through a screen. Mr. JENNER. That was the only difficulty that you observed, the difficulty in talking through the screen door, the screen of the door? Mrs. PAINE. I felt that she could have asked me whether I cared if my children were exposed. I felt that she preferred for me not to come in. Senator COOPER. Was Marina staying with them? Mrs. PAINE. I don't believe so. I am pretty certain she was at that time at the Martin's home. Senator COOPER. Did you get any impression in your talk with Mrs. Robert Oswald that they were not interested in finding out the information that you were asking for? Mrs. PAINE. She offered the opinion that she didn't think there was any particular point to writing letters at this time, but she offered no reason. Mr. JENNER. By the way, do you have copies of those letters, Mrs. Paine? Mrs. PAINE. At home. Mr. JENNER. I know now that I will be to see you on Monday. Mrs. PAINE. Monday? Mr. JENNER. Yes. Are you going to be home on Monday? Mrs. PAINE. I am flying Monday morning. Shall we go together? I am not leaving until Monday morning. Mr. JENNER. I am going down Sunday night. So may I see those letters on that occasion? Mrs. PAINE. As soon as I get home. Mr. JENNER. Would you be good enough---- Mrs. PAINE. I will have to translate them. Mr. JENNER. All right. Mrs. PAINE. That will take a while. Mr. JENNER. With respect to the curtain-rod package, would you be good enough to leave it intact, don't touch it, just leave it where it is without touching it at all. Mrs. PAINE. Yes.