Mr. JENNER. Did you also tell Mr. Tackett in addition to, that his reasons for his not engaging in rifle practice that weekend or any other weekend was that he couldn't drive an automobile? Mrs. PAINE. Very probably. Mr. JENNER. And also that he couldn't have walked that far for rifle practice? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. By that far I mean there is no place you can walk to from my house, not only not to the firing range, but to an open enough place where you could fire. It would be difficult to walk that far. Mr. JENNER. Where was the firing range at which it was suggested he practiced? Mrs. PAINE. I don't know exactly. It was in the Grand Prairie area, just south of where we are located. But it would be a 15-minute car drive I would expect. Mr. JENNER. From your home to the firing range. Do you know, did you ever go to the firing range to see where it really was located? Mrs. PAINE. No; I never did. Mr. JENNER. You are relying on the newspapers, are you? Mrs. PAINE. That is right. Mr. JENNER. When you say thinking of its location you are thinking of the general location of Grand Prairie, Tex. Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Senator COOPER. Were you asked to give your opinion on that? Mrs. PAINE. I think so. Senator COOPER. Why would you submit that as your conclusion that he could not have taken the rifle away, could not have got to a firing range? Mrs. PAINE. The only thing--well--it had been reported in the press that he had been seen at a firing range or someone said he had seen him, Oswald, at a firing range on the weekend of the 9th, 10th, and the following weekend and it seemed to me important to say what I could on the subject if I had any contrary information, and I did any time the reporters asked me about it. Senator COOPER. When you made a statement about the rifle, were you considering the fact that he had left your house on the morning of the 21st before you got up? Mrs. PAINE. I don't understand the question. Senator COOPER. The 22d, yes. Mrs. PAINE. Let me say in making such a statement to the Press, I was not implying that I didn't think Oswald had taken a gun from my house on the morning of the 22d. Now, you ask the question again and perhaps I will understand it better. Senator COOPER. Were you referring to two weekends when he left your house in saying that he couldn't take the gun or were you including also the morning of the 22d? Mrs. PAINE. I was definitely not including the morning of the 22d. Mr. JENNER. May I proceed, Mr. Chairman. Senator COOPER. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Do you know of any occasion when Lee and Marina did or might have visited the welfare office of the Salvation Army on your return from Dallas? Mrs. PAINE. No. Mr. JENNER. Having in mind all your contact with them during that period, do you have an opinion as to whether that could have taken place, that they did visit the Salvation Army Welfare Office? Mrs. PAINE. It was suggested that this was in the fall of the year? Mr. JENNER. Yes.