Mrs. PAINE. It is a Russian word that sounded to me like binocular, as I recall. Senator COOPER. Did she refer to it as a sighting device not in the words sighting device, but did her language in substance as she described it give reference to it as a sight on the rifle? Mrs. PAINE. My judgment is that Mr. Mamantov used the word in reference to it first, you see, and then she simply used the same word. Asking her was she acquainted with this, and giving the word in Russian, and she said she wasn't certain she had seen that binocular or whatever the word used was on the gun. Senator COOPER. Now, at any time on the 22d, after she had admitted that she had seen a rifle before, and in your talk with her, either on the way into the police station or any other time, did she say anything more about having seen the rifle before? Mrs. PAINE. No; she didn't. Senator COOPER. To you? What? Mrs. PAINE. No. Senator COOPER. Did you know who brought Lee Oswald to your house from Dallas when he would come for his visits? Mrs. PAINE. After he had gotten his job it was my understanding that he came with Wesley Frazier. Senator COOPER. Did you ever hear him say that anyone else brought him to your house? Mrs. PAINE. No; I didn't. Senator COOPER. Did he ever say that any fellow worker at the Depository brought him to the house? Mrs. PAINE. Other than Wesley Frazier; no. Senator COOPER. Did he ever mention by name or any description any of the people with whom he worked at the Depository? Mrs. PAINE. Except for Wesley; no. Senator COOPER. He never mentioned any one of his fellow workers, associates there? Mrs. PAINE. None. Senator COOPER. Did he ever refer to them in any way as liking or disliking them as a group or as individuals? Mrs. PAINE. No; he didn't. Senator COOPER. In your talks with him or in hearing him talk did he ever refer to any persons who were friends of his or associates? Mrs. PAINE. I never heard him mention anyone. Senator COOPER. He never mentioned the name of any person? Mrs. PAINE. Not anyone. He mentioned a friend in Houston as I have already testified, no name and I was wondering whether there was any such friend, I recall that. That is absolutely the only reference I can recall. Senator COOPER. You said that you told someone that Marina did not agree with his political views? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Senator COOPER. How did you know that? Mrs. PAINE. She told me she wasn't interested in politics. She told me indeed that Lee complained about her lack of interest. Senator COOPER. That is something different from saying that she didn't agree with them. Mrs. PAINE. Well, she did say that she didn't like his having passed out leaflets in New Orleans. This is still different from saying she disagreed, though. But that is the most I can say. Senator COOPER. Did she ever tell her what her political views were, if any? Mrs. PAINE. She said she didn't consider herself a person interested in politics. She----