Mr. DULLES. You did not go inside the building? Mr. BRENNAN. No; I did not. Mr. BELIN. Did you notice any people coming out of the front stairs of the building after these two Negroes came out? Mr. BRENNAN. Well, I recall people going in and out, but a different picture I cannot remember. Representative FORD. Where were you standing when you identified the two Negroes? Mr. BRENNAN. On the edge of the street, outer side of the sidewalk, when the two colored boys came out of the building and came down the steps. Mr. BELIN. Was that at point "G"? Mr. BRENNAN. Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. All right. Now, perhaps on Exhibit No. 478 you can trace your route at least along Houston Street to the time--to the place where you were sitting. You recognize the intersection of Main and Houston there? Mr. BRENNAN. Yes. Mr. BELIN. All right. Could you start there and kind of trace--well, I don't know if you can see all of it. Mr. BRENNAN. No. Mr. BELIN. Do the best you can, you can trace along here. Here would be the intersection of Main and Houston. Mr. BRENNAN. I came down that side. Now, this street was open at that time. Mr. BELIN. By this street you mean Houston Street? Mr. BRENNAN. Yes. I don't recall any parked cars there. Mr. BELIN. Could you make that line a little darker, sir, that you have put on. All right. Now, at that first point, this would be---- Mr. BRENNAN. I believe I walked a little south there, just observing them picking the man up. Mr. BELIN. All right. You have marked a line on Exhibit No. 478 heading a little bit south on the west side of Houston street, commencing at the southwest corner of the intersection, which is where you say you walked to watch the man with the epileptic fit, is that it? Mr. BRENNAN. Well, I didn't go up--he was almost center way of the block here. I didn't go up that far. Mr. BELIN. All right. And will you put the letter "H" there, if you would? Mr. BRENNAN. Where I was standing watching the man? Mr. BELIN. Where you were standing watching the man; yes. Mr. BRENNAN. Right there. Mr. BELIN. And then where did you go from there? Mr. BRENNAN. Right there. Mr. BELIN. All right. Now, you have taken a line which would be running along the south side of Elm Street there towards the point where you are sitting, and that is in the picture Exhibit 478. And that was the route that you took? Mr. BRENNAN. Yes. Mr. BELIN. Put the letter "I", if you would, there, please. Now, on Exhibit No. 477, I wonder if you would perchance show us after the assassination, or the shooting--you said you first went over to another side of the wall. Would it be to the east or to the west there? Mr. BRENNAN. To the east. This right here is solid concrete. Mr. BELIN. Is this where you went? Mr. BRENNAN. Yes. Mr. BELIN. All right. On Exhibit 477, could you put the letter "J" where you went right after the shooting? All right.