As positive identification I cannot recognize them. Now, I see where there is a possibility I did make a mistake. I believe these two colored boys was in this window, and I believe I showed on that other exhibit that they were in this window. Mr. BELIN. All right. I am going to hand you now---- Mr. BRENNAN. The only thing I said is that they were one window over below the man that fired the gun. Mr. BELIN. Well, I hand you Commission Exhibit 477, where you marked a "B" at the point there you first said you saw the Negro men. Is this the one you say now you might have been mistaken? Mr. BRENNAN. Yes; I believe I was mistaken. I believe the two men that I identified was in this window. Mr. BELIN. You are pointing to the window to the east of where you have now marked "B"? Mr. BRENNAN. That I am not positive of. I just remember that they were over one window from below him, which at that time I might have thought this was one window over. Mr. BELIN. All right. Let me ask you this. On Exhibit 481, does the condition of the opening of the windows in the fifth floor appear to be that which you saw on the afternoon of November 22? Mr. BRENNAN. Yes. These do. Mr. BELIN. You are pointing to the fifth-floor windows now? Mr. BRENNAN. But I don't recall this window at the time of the shooting being that low. Mr. BELIN. Now, by this window you are pointing to the window on the sixth floor? Mr. BRENNAN. Right. Mr. BELIN. On Exhibit 481. I wonder if you would mark that with the letter "A"--if you would circle that window. And could you put an "A" on that, if you would. Now, window A, on Exhibit 481, when you saw it, how high do you believe it was open? Mr. BRENNAN. I believe that at the time he was firing, it was open just like this. Mr. BELIN. Just like the windows on the fifth floor immediately below? Mr. BRENNAN. That is right. Mr. BELIN. I note in window "A" there appear to be some boxes in the window. To the best of your recollection, what is the fact as to whether or not those boxes as shown in this exhibit appear to be similar to the ones you saw on November 22? Mr. BRENNAN. No; I could see more boxes. Mr. BELIN. In the window or behind the window? Mr. BRENNAN. Behind the window. Mr. BELIN. I am talking in the window itself. Mr. BRENNAN. No, no. That is--I don't remember a box in the window, these boxes I remember are stacked up behind the window, and they were zigzagged, kind of step down, and there was a space it looked like back of here. Mr. BELIN. Now, you are pointing to a space which would be on the east side, is that right? Mr. BRENNAN. Yes. Mr. BELIN. When you say you don't remember---- Mr. BRENNAN. Well, I can see those boxes there now. I don't know whether you can see them or not. It seems like I can see the boxes in that picture. Am I right? Mr. BELIN. I don't know, sir. I can't see them on Exhibit 471. That could be the dirty window here. Mr. BRENNAN. Here they are here. Those boxes there.