Mr. WILLIAMS. Well, I worked there until business began to get slow. I think that was--it was before November. I think it was some time during October. I am not sure. Mr. BALL. And what did they put you to work at at that time? Mr. WILLIAMS. They called me up to help lay a floor on the fifth floor, they wanted more boards over it. As I say, business was slow, and they were trying to keep us on without laying us off at the time. So I was using the saw, helping cut wood and lay wood. Mr. BALL. You were laying a wood floor over the old floor? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. On the fifth floor? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. And when you finished on the fifth floor, what did you do? Mr. WILLIAMS. After we finished on the fifth floor, we started to move up to the sixth floor. But at the time we didn't complete the sixth floor. We only completed just a little portion of it. Mr. BALL. By the time, you are talking about November 22d? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Before November 22d, how long had you been laying floor in the building at Houston and Elm? Mr. WILLIAMS. Before November 22d, I think we had been working on the fifth floor, I think, about 3 weeks. I think altogether I had been up there just about 4 weeks, I think. Mr. BALL. And how long had you been on the sixth floor before--how long have you been working on the sixth floor before November 22d? Mr. WILLIAMS. Let's see. Before November 22d, I think it might have been 2 days--it might have been 2 days. I would say about 2 days, approximately 2 days. Mr. BALL. Before you started to lay the floor, did you have to move any cartons? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes; we did. Mr. BALL. From what part of the sixth floor did you move the cartons? Mr. WILLIAMS. We moved cartons from, I believe, the west side of the sixth floor to the east side of the sixth floor, because I think there was a vacancy in there. Mr. BALL. Clear over to the east side? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Were there cartons stacked up between the west side and the east side--were there cartons on the floor? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes; there was. Mr. BALL. After you moved the cartons, then did you start laying the floor? Mr. WILLIAMS. After we moved the cartons, we started laying the floor. Then we had to move the cartons. As we go we would move cartons to vacate the space, so we could lay the floor. Mr. BALL. On November 22d, what time did you go to work? Mr. WILLIAMS. November 22d, I went to work at 8 o'clock. Mr. BALL. Were you late or on time that morning? Mr. WILLIAMS. I believe I was on time that morning. I always get there a little before eight. Mr. BALL. Did you know Lee Oswald, Lee Harvey Oswald? Mr. WILLIAMS. I didn't know him personally, but I had seen him working. Never did say anything to anyone. He never did put himself in any position to say anything to anyone. He just went about his work. He never said anything to me. I never said anything to him. Mr. BALL. Did you ever have lunch with him?