Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir. I remember sitting on this two-wheeler. By that time, I was through, and I got up and I just left then. Mr. DULLES. How much of the room could you see as you finished your lunch there? Was your view obstructed by boxes of books, or could you see a good bit of the sixth floor? Mr. WILLIAMS. Well, at the time I couldn't see too much of the sixth floor, because the books at the time were stacked so high. I could see only in the path that I was standing--as I remember, I could not possibly see anything to the east side of the building. But just one aisle, the aisle I was standing in I could see just about to the west side of the building. So far as seeing to the east and behind me, I could only see down the aisle behind me and the aisle to the west of me. Representative FORD. Have you ever had any trouble with the law at all? Mr. WILLIAMS. No, sir. Representative FORD. No difficulty as far as the law is concerned? Mr. WILLIAMS. I have never been inside of a courthouse before. Mr. BALL. I have an exhibit here marked 484. (The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 484 for identification.) Mr. BALL. Do you recognize that? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir; I recognize that. Mr. BALL. What do you see? Mr. WILLIAMS. I see a two-wheeler, a Dr. Pepper bottle, and some boxes in the windows. Mr. BALL. And is that anywhere near where you were sitting? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir; that is the exact place I was sitting. Mr. BALL. That is the two-wheeler you were sitting on? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Now, when you were on the two-wheeler, as you were sitting there, did you have a view, could you see down towards the southeast corner? Mr. WILLIAMS. No, sir; I couldn't see anything as I remember there. About the only thing that I could see from there would be just the top edge of the window, because the boxes were stacked up. Mr. BALL. The boxes were stacked up high? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Let me show you another picture here. Mr. DULLES. You are not introducing that at this time? Mr. BALL. I will. I am going to introduce them all. Let's go back to the diagram, which is 483. Could you mark on this diagram the window that is shown in this picture 484--that is, the place where you were sitting and eating your lunch? Mr. WILLIAMS. That would be facing Elm Street. I would say right around in this. Mr. BALL. In other words, you are marking here something between--some area between the third and the fourth window. Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. You are not able to tell exactly? Mr. WILLIAMS. No; I am not. Mr. BALL. The witness has drawn a red rectangle to show the approximate area which runs from about the center of the second row of windows from the southeast corner over to about the fourth pane of windows. Mr. WILLIAMS. I would say about right in here, third or fourth. Mr. BALL. Third or fourth? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir.