Mr. BELIN. When you got on the sixth floor, did you happen to go over to the southeast corner of the sixth floor at about that time or not? Mr. TRULY. No, sir; I sure didn't. Mr. BELIN. When did you get over to the southeast corner of the sixth floor? Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases. It could have been at the time I went up and told them about Lee Harvey Oswald being missing. I cannot remember. But I didn't know it. I didn't see them find them, and I didn't know at the time--I don't know how long they had the things. Mr. BELIN. There has been some testimony here, Mr. Truly, about some bins for storing books on the fifth floor near the stairway. I am going to hand you an exhibit which has been marked as Commission Exhibit 490, and ask you to state, if you know--were you there when these pictures were taken on the fifth floor? On Friday, March 20th? The CHAIRMAN. The fifth floor? Mr. BELIN. The fifth floor; yes, sir. Mr. TRULY. Yes; I was, I believe. Some of them I may not have been when all of them were taken. I was not there when this picture was taken, no, sir. Mr. BELIN. You are familiar with those bins on the fifth floor, are you not? Mr. TRULY. Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. How long have those bins by the stairway been there? Mr. TRULY. Well, it would be hard for me to say, but they have been there, I suppose, almost from the time we moved in--nearly 2 years. They were there at the time of November 22. Mr. BELIN. On Commission Exhibit 487, the line marked "W", will you state whether or not this appears to be the approximate line where the bins are located? Mr. TRULY. Yes, it would be. Mr. BELIN. Can you see over those bins? Mr. TRULY. You cannot. Mr. BELIN. I mean when you are at the window--say you are in the southwest corner. Mr. TRULY. No, sir; you cannot. They obscure the stairway. Mr. BELIN. All right. Now, there was a floor laying project that was going along on the sixth floor at about the time of November 22, is that correct? Mr. TRULY. Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. Handing you Commission Exhibit 483, could you state, if you know, approximately where on the sixth floor they were laying new plywood floor around November 22d? Mr. TRULY. This is it---- Mr. BELIN. This is north right here? Mr. TRULY. They were in this area right here. Mr. BELIN. Well, there is a blank line that appears to have a "W" at one end or the other. Would that be a fairly accurate---- Mr. TRULY. Yes, sir; in the west end of the building. Mr. BELIN. Where they were laying the floor? Mr. TRULY. That is where they were laying the floor. Mr. BELIN. Now, when you were--were you familiar with the fact that they had moved books in the process of laying that floor? Mr. TRULY. I knew they had to. I didn't know where they moved them particularly until that time. I don't suppose I had been up on that floor in several days.