Mrs. PAINE. Two car lengths from the opening of the garage to the sidewalk. Mr. JENNER. Now where was Lee Oswald when you first saw him? Mrs. PAINE. He was on the grass just to the east of the driveway. Mr. JENNER. Near the driveway just to the east, but he was out in front of your home? Mrs. PAINE. That is correct. Mr. JENNER. What did you do then? You proceeded down the street? Mrs. PAINE. I parked my car, yes; parked my car in its usual position in the driveway. Mr. JENNER. In your driveway? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Up close to the garage opening? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. And that left you then, you were on the left side or the driving side of your automobile. You got out, did you? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Which way? Did you get out to your left or did you swing across the seat and get out at the right hand door? Mrs. PAINE. I got out on the driver's side, on the left. Mr. JENNER. Then what did you do? First tell us what you did. Did you go into your home directly? Did you walk around? Mrs. PAINE. No. I greeted Lee and Marina, who were both on the front lawn. Mr. JENNER. Was their daughter June out in front as well? Mrs. PAINE. Their daughter June was out in front. It was warm. Lee was playing with June. Mr. JENNER. How was he attired? Mrs. PAINE. I don't recall specifically. Mr. JENNER. You said that he normally wore a T-shirt. Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Was he in a T-shirt or shirt? Mrs. PAINE. I'd be fairly certain he didn't have a jacket on, but that whatever it was was tucked in. Mr. JENNER. Do you remember the color of his trousers? Mrs. PAINE. No. Mr. JENNER. Now at that point you were surprised to see him? Mrs. PAINE. I was. Mr. JENNER. What did you say to him? Mrs. PAINE. I don't recall. Mr. JENNER. But you do recall greeting him? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. You don't recall that you evidenced any surprise that he was there? Mrs. PAINE. Oh, I think I did. Mr. JENNER. Had there ever been an occasion prior thereto that he had appeared at your home without prior notice to you and permission from you for him to appear? Mrs. PAINE. There had been no such occasion. He had always asked permission prior to coming. Mr. JENNER. And there never had been an exception to that up to this moment? Mrs. PAINE. No exception. Mr. JENNER. May we have the time again? You say it was late in the afternoon, but can you fix the time a little more? Mrs. PAINE. It was getting on toward 5:30. Mr. JENNER. Did you tarry and talk with Lee and Marina? Mrs. PAINE. I remember only that Marina and I were still on the grass at the entryway to the house when she spoke of her embarrassment to me in an aside, that is to say, not in Lee's hearing, that she was sorry he hadn't called ahead and asked if that was all right. And I said "Why, that is all right." Mr. JENNER. Nothing was said by her as to why he had come out? Mrs. PAINE. Nothing. Mr. JENNER. And nothing was----