Mr. JENNER. Did he turn on the television set? Mrs. PAINE. I don't believe he watched television that evening. Mr. JENNER. Could you tell us of any awareness on your part of his presence in the home, that is you were definitely conscious that he remained inside the house? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. And was not out in the yard? Senator COOPER. How would you know that? Mrs. PAINE. It is a small house. You can hear if the front door or the back door opens. But I can't be absolutely certain. Senator COOPER. Is what you are saying that you don't remember, or rather that you don't remember that the front door or the back door did open? Mrs. PAINE. That is right. I am also saying there is very little about that evening that stood out as unusual. I have tried to say what I could think of that did stand out as unusual. I think the rest melds together with other evenings which were similar. Senator COOPER. I don't want to interrupt you but I think she has got to tell what she remembers that evening. Mr. McCLOY. Yes. I think without the meticulous minute by minute, just say what it is. Senator COOPER. If you don't remember, you don't remember. Mrs. PAINE. I am sorry. Mr. McCLOY. You can't break it down into sequence that far back? Senator COOPER. Just tell what you remember. Mr. JENNER. Go ahead and tell us, Mrs. Paine, the course of events that evening, with particular reference to what we are interested in, what Lee Oswald did and where he was during the course of that evening. Mrs. PAINE. I have already said that after I had my children in bed, I went to the garage to work. Mr. JENNER. Was it now nighttime? Mrs. PAINE. It was now dark, I recall about 9 o'clock. I noticed that the light was on. Mr. JENNER. Was the door to the garage open? Mrs. PAINE. No; it was closed. Mr. JENNER. It was closed. And you noticed the light on when you opened the door. Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Had the light been on at anytime to your knowledge prior to that? Mrs. PAINE. Not that evening; no. Mr. JENNER. When entering and leaving the garage during the course of your preparing dinner, to your recollection, was there any light on at that time? Mrs. PAINE. No. Mr. JENNER. You didn't turn the light on at anytime up to this moment of which you speak? Mrs. PAINE. No. Senator COOPER. Had you been in the garage that evening before the time that you found the light on? Mrs. PAINE. If I had only in this course of habit which also included if it was dark, flipping the switch on and flipping it off. Senator COOPER. You don't remember if you did that or not before. Mrs. PAINE. Specifically, no. Mr. McCLOY. She said she might have been. Mr. JENNER. Is that a hand switch? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. You must trip it. Where is the switch located, in the kitchen or in the garage? Mrs. PAINE. The switch is in the garage.