Mrs. PAINE. Or I might have. I don't recall. I recall that it wasn't something that interested me as much as the other things I had to get done. Mr. JENNER. But the rods about which you have testified as far as you know are on the shelf in your garage at your home? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Do you recall whether when the FBI discussed this subject with you, if you can recall that, that you advised the FBI of these particular curtain rods? Mrs. PAINE. I am not perfectly certain that they discussed it with me. Mr. JENNER. You just have no recollection of any interview with the FBI on this particular subject? Mrs. PAINE. It seems to me they brought it up, but I don't recall the content nor whether they went out. I certainly think I would remember if I had gone out to the garage with an FBI representative. Mr. JENNER. But you do not? Mrs. PAINE. But I do not remember such an occasion. Mr. JENNER. Unless the members of the Commission have any further questions with respect to the curtain rods, I will return to the afternoon. Senator COOPER. I want to ask just two questions. Before the assassination, did you know where the package with the curtain rods in it was situated within the garage? Mrs. PAINE. I gave it no attention but yes, it is my impression that I did go out to see if things were where I expected to find them. They were wrapped in brown paper, the curtain rods and venetian blinds. And found things there. I don't recall that I looked into the package. Mr. JENNER. You did find the package? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. What was the size of the package in length and width if you can remember at the time you wrapped it? Mrs. PAINE. I suppose about like this, not closed but just wrapping paper folded over. Mr. JENNER. Would you hold your hands there please. Mrs. PAINE. Yes. But by no means a neat package, just enough to keep the dust off. Mr. LIEBELER. Thirty-two and a half inches. Senator COOPER. What was the width of the package? Mrs. PAINE. Like so. Senator COOPER. That you wrapped? Mrs. PAINE. Now I am not certain. I am really thinking now of the package with the venetian blind. I don't recall exactly the package with the rods, whether they were included in this other or whether they warranted a package of their own. Mr. LIEBELER. The witness indicated a width of approximately 7-1/2 inches. Senator COOPER. I will ask one other question. The ends of the rod which are at right angles to the long surface, how long? What is their approximate size? Mrs. PAINE. Two and a half inches to three inches. Senator COOPER. What? Mrs. PAINE. Two and a half to three inches. Senator COOPER. All right, go ahead. Mr. JENNER. Anyone entering your home from the outside walking up your driveway and looking in the windows, would they see anybody sitting on the sofa you have described? Mrs. PAINE. No. Mr. JENNER. Do you sit on the sofa to look at your television set? Mrs. PAINE. Yes.