Warren Commission (04 of 26): Hearings Vol. IV (of 15)United States. Warren Commission
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Warren Commission (04 of 26): Hearings Vol. IV (of 15)
United States. Warren Commission
Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 -- Assassination; Oswald, Lee Harvey
I understand that in the fall, the Depository is busy, and could very
well have changed rolls, but no records are kept along that line.
Mr. DULLES. Changed rolls in that time, 10-day period?
Mr. CADIGAN. Yes, sir. Actually there were 4 working days in that
period.
Mr. DULLES. Yes. But am I not correct that there probably or maybe
certainly, I would like to have your view on that, was no change in
the roll between the day before the assassination and the night of the
assassination, that is between paper bag, Exhibit No. 142, and the
specimen that was taken on the night of the day of the assassination?
Mr. CADIGAN. I can't tell you that, sir. I have no way of knowing,
because these papers are similar in all observable physical
characteristics, and they are different from a sample obtained on
December 1. I would suspect that this were true. But I can't----
Mr. DULLES. I realize that.
Mr. CADIGAN. I cannot make a positive statement on that.
Mr. EISENBERG. Have you any information as to whether the paper during
the period between November 22 and December 1 used in the TSBD--whether
it was the same or different rolls--would have come from the same
ultimate manufacturer?
Mr. CADIGAN. It is my understanding that they received a shipment of
58 rolls of paper that were shipped March 19, 1963, from the St. Regis
Paper Mill in Jacksonville. Fla., and which lasted them until January
of 1964. This would mean on an average, in a 9-month period, a little
more than six rolls a month.
Mr. EISENBERG. The inference would therefore be that if the--although
the papers in the replica bag obtained on December 1 and the paper in
the sample obtained on November 22 are distinguishable by you, they
came from the same manufacturer, and--is that correct?
Mr. CADIGAN. That is correct.
Mr. EISENBERG. And, therefore, that the state of your science is
such that you can distinguish even rolls of paper made by the same
manufacturer and assumedly made within a reasonably close time, is that
correct also?
Mr. CADIGAN. I don't know what period of time is involved here. But
I can distinguish at least in this case between paper from the same
shipment from the same mill.
Mr. EISENBERG. Could you proceed now to discuss the morphology of the
fiber as you examined it under a microscope?
Mr. CADIGAN. Well, I might state briefly what a fiber analysis is. We
put samples of paper back into their, you might say, original state, in
the form of fiber suspension.
You cook samples of paper for a couple of minutes in weak sodium
hydroxide solution. Then you wash it, add water and shake it
vigorously, and you get a suspension of fibers in the water. Samples
of those fibers are put on glass slides and are stained by various
reagents.
Then you examine them under a high-power comparison microscope or a
binocular microscope under approximately 120 times magnification. In
this particular case I used two different stains.
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