Warren Commission (04 of 26): Hearings Vol. IV (of 15)United States. Warren Commission
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Warren Commission (04 of 26): Hearings Vol. IV (of 15)
United States. Warren Commission
Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 -- Assassination; Oswald, Lee Harvey
Mr. CADIGAN. I was also requested at that time to examine the bag
to determine if there were any significant markings or scratches or
abrasions or anything by which it could be associated with the rifle,
Commission Exhibit 139, that is, could I find any markings that I could
tie to that rifle.
Mr. EISENBERG. Yes?
Mr. CADIGAN. And I couldn't find any such markings.
Mr. EISENBERG. Now, was there an absence of markings which would be
inconsistent with the rifle having been carried in the bag?
Mr. CADIGAN. No; I don't see--actually, I don't know the condition of
the rifle. If it were in fact contained in this bag, it could have
been wrapped in cloth or just the metal parts wrapped in a thick layer
of cloth, or if the gun was in the bag, perhaps it wasn't moved too
much. I did observe some scratch marks and abrasions but was unable
to associate them with this gun. The scratch marks in the paper could
come from any place. They could have come from many places. There were
no marks on this bag that I could say were caused by that rifle or any
other rifle or any other given instrument.
Mr. EISENBERG. Was there any absence of markings or absence of bulges
or absence of creases which would cause you to say that the rifle was
not carried in the paper bag?
Mr. CADIGAN. No.
Mr. EISENBERG. That is whether it had been wrapped or not wrapped?
Mr. CADIGAN. That is something I can't say.
Mr. DULLES. Would the scratches indicate there was a hard object inside
the bag, as distinct from a soft object that would make no abrasions or
scratches?
Mr. CADIGAN. Well, if you were to characterize it that way, yes. I mean
there were a few scratches here. What caused them, I can't say. A hard
object; yes. Whether that hard object was part of a gun----
Mr. DULLES. I understand.
Mr. CADIGAN. And so forth----
Mr. EISENBERG. I am not sure you understood a question I asked one or
two questions ago.
I just want to make clear here if the gun was not wrapped in a
cloth--let's assume hypothetically that the gun was not wrapped in
a cloth and was, also hypothetically, inserted into this paper bag.
Is there any absence of marks which would lead you to believe that
this hypothesis I just made couldn't be--that is, that it couldn't be
inserted, without a covering, into the paper bag without leaving more
markings than were present?
Mr. CADIGAN. No. The absence of markings to me wouldn't mean much. I
was looking for markings I could associate. The absence of marks, the
significance of them, I don't know.
Mr. EISENBERG. Now, getting back to the paper bag, 142, and the tape
thereon, just for a second, and the tape found on the, obtained from
the, TSBD on November 22, Exhibit 677, were the widths of the tapes the
same?
Mr. CADIGAN. Similar. They were not exactly the same; no.
Mr. EISENBERG. Can you explain that?
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