Mr. CADIGAN. Well, if you look at the two tape samples---- Mr. DULLES. This tape sample on upper left hand is covered up by this one. I wonder whether you shouldn't take out the later one? Mr. CADIGAN. Yes; I think probably that would be better. Mr. EISENBERG. Why don't you show Mr. Dulles the paper bag, 142, and the sample obtained November 22? Mr. DULLES. Yes; those are the two we are most interested in. Mr. CADIGAN. The observation I would make there is that the color of the tape on Exhibit 142, the sack, and the color of the paper of the sack 142, under UV, is the same as the color of the tape on 677 and the color of the paper. Mr. DULLES. I agree on that. Mr. EISENBERG. Let the record show that Mr. Dulles makes the statement as he is looking in the machine. Mr. Cadigan, why don't you compare it---- Mr. CADIGAN. By comparison---- Mr. DULLES. This is only as to color, that is all I saw. I saw some markings on it. Mr. CADIGAN. That is right. This is only for color appearance under the ultraviolet light. Mr. EISENBERG. Why don't you compare the sack found at the TSBD and the replica sack obtained 10 days later? Mr. CADIGAN. Here again all that should be observed is the color under UV of both the paper and tape of the sample and the paper and tape of Exhibit 364. Mr. DULLES. 364 is the paper bag, isn't it? Mr. CADIGAN. 364 is the replica sack obtained on December 1. Mr. EISENBERG. Ten days later. Mr. DULLES. That is on the left? Mr. CADIGAN. Yes. Mr. DULLES. And the other is the sack? Mr. CADIGAN. No; the other on your right is the sample of paper obtained on November 22. Mr. DULLES. November 22, just after the assassination? Mr. CADIGAN. Yes. Mr. DULLES. There is a clear distinction here. The sample to the right, that is, as I understand it, paper obtained on the evening of November 22, has a more, a deeper violet shade, and on the other hand, the tape is much lighter than the tape on the sample obtained 10 days later. That is to say that the sample 10 days later is darker as to the tape but lighter as to the paper. Would you like the opportunity, Mr. Murray? Mr. MURRAY. No, thank you. Mr. EISENBERG. We are putting in the sack and 364, the 10-day later sample. Mr. DULLES. Sack and 10-day later sample. Which is on which side? Mr. CADIGAN. The sack is on the left and the replica bag obtained on December 1 is on the right. Mr. DULLES. Yes. I find there that the sample obtained 10 days later, and the sack which is on the left, that the sample obtained 10 days later shows a lighter shade of purple than the sack, and that the tape shows a darker shade of, I would call it, almost gray as against almost white for the tape which is on the sack. Mr. EISENBERG. I have no further questions, Mr. Dulles. Mr. DULLES. Have you anything that you feel you should add, anything in this general field that would help the Commission? Mr. CADIGAN. No, sir; not as it relates to this paper and these paper bags.