Mr. DULLES. I wonder whether or not it would not be desirable for the doctor to put on this photograph where these holes are, because they are not at all clear for the future if we want to study those photographs. Dr. SHAW. This one is not so hard. Mr. DULLES. That one appears but the other one doesn't appear and I think it would be very helpful. Dr. SHAW. How would you like to have me outline this? Mr. SPECTER. Draw a red circle of what you conceive to be the hole there, Doctor. Mr. DULLES. The actual hole is not nearly as big as your circle, it is the darkened area inside that circle, is it not? Dr. SHAW. Yes; the darkened area is enclosed by the circle. Mr. SPECTER. Are you able to note on the photograph of the back of the shirt, 685? Will you draw a red circle around the area of the hole on the photograph then, Dr. Shaw? Mr. DULLES. Would you just initial those two circles, if you can. Mr. SPECTER. Dr. Shaw, what wounds, if any, did the Governor sustain on his left thigh? Dr. SHAW. He sustained a small puncture-type wound on the medial aspect of the left thigh. Mr. SPECTER. Did you have an opportunity to examine that closely? Dr. SHAW. No. Mr. SPECTER. Did you have an opportunity to examine it sufficiently to ascertain its location on the left thigh? Dr. SHAW. No; I didn't examine it that closely, except for its general location. Mr. SPECTER. Where was it with respect to a general location then on the Governor's thigh? Dr. SHAW. It is on the medial anterior aspect of the thigh. Mr. DULLES. Nontechnically, what does it mean? Dr. SHAW. Well, above, slightly above, between, in other words, the medial aspect would be the aspect toward the middle of the body, but as far as being how many centimeters or inches it is from the knee and the groin, I am not absolutely sure. Mr. SPECTER. I now show you a pair of trousers which we shall later identify as being those worn by the Governor. I will, first of all, ask you if a photograph bearing Commission Exhibit No. 687 is a picture of those trousers? Dr. SHAW. It is. Mr. SPECTER. And what hole, if any did you observe on the trousers and on the picture of the trousers? Dr. SHAW. There is a hole in the garment that has been made by some instrument which has carried away a part of the Governor's garment. In other words, it is not a tear but is a punched out hole, and this is approximately 4 centimeters on the inner aspect from the crease of the trousers. Mr. DULLES. Can you tell where the knee is there and how far above the knee approximately? Dr. SHAW. I can't tell exactly. Mr. DULLES. I guess you can't tell. Dr. SHAW. From the crotch I would say it would be slightly, it is a little hard to tell, slightly more toward the knee than the groin. Mr. SPECTER. Does that hole in the left leg of the trousers match up to the wound on the left thigh of the Governor? Dr. SHAW. To the best of my recollection it does.