Mr. CURRY. The only things I heard him say, he was very arrogant. He was very--he had a dislike for authority, it seemed, of anyone. He denied anything you asked him. I heard them ask once or twice if this was his picture or something, he said, "I don't know what you are talking about. No; it is not my picture," and this was a picture of him holding a rifle or something. I remember one time they showed him and he denied that being him. I remember he denied anything knowing anything about a man named Hidell that he had this identification in his pocket or in his notebook, and I believe a postal inspector was in this room at the time, too, and someone asked him about the fact that he had a post office box in the name of Hidell and he didn't know anything about that. He just didn't know anything about anything. Mr. RANKIN. Did it ever come to your attention that he ever asked for or inquired about counsel? Mr. CURRY. Yes; I heard him say something. I asked if he had had an opportunity to use the phone and Captain Fritz told me they were giving him an opportunity to use the phone. Mr. RANKIN. What did he say about counsel? Mr. CURRY. As I recall he said he wanted to try to get in touch with John Abt. Mr. RANKIN. A-b-t? Mr. CURRY. A-b-t, I believe an attorney in New York, to handle his case and then if he couldn't get him he said he wanted to get someone from Civil Liberties Union. Mr. RANKIN. What did you do about that? Mr. CURRY. I told them to let him talk to them in an attempt to get his attorney and in an attempt to get some of his relatives so they could arrange for it. Mr. RANKIN. Will you describe how it was handled for him to be able to talk on the telephone? Mr. CURRY. We take them from their cells and we have two telephones that they are taken to, and they are put on these telephones and they are locked in, and a guard stands by while they make their calls. Mr. RANKIN. Is that call secret or is there any listening in on it? Mr. CURRY. No, sir; it is not supposed to be secret. I mean it is supposed to be secret. It is privileged communication as far as we are concerned, we don't have a tap on the phone or anything. Mr. DULLES. Did he use this? Mr. CURRY. Yes; he did. Mr. RANKIN. Do you know whether an attorney from Dallas was offered to him and came to the jail? Mr. CURRY. There were some members of the Civil Liberties Union came to see us that night, and they said they were concerned with whether or not he was being permitted legal counsel. Mr. RANKIN. Did they talk to you? Mr. CURRY. No; they didn't talk to me. They talked to Professor Webster. Mr. RANKIN. How did this come to your attention? Mr. CURRY. He told me. Mr. RANKIN. I see. Now, tell us what he said.