The entrance to the homicide office is approximately 20 or 25 feet to the entrance to this jail elevator, and it is necessary to bring a prisoner down this hall in order to get him into this jail elevator. Each time we--that I observed them move Oswald, they were almost overrun by news media. Mr. RANKIN. By overrun, what do you mean? Could you describe with a little more definiteness, are you talking about 4 or 5 or 10? Mr. CURRY. I will say probably a hundred, at least a hundred that were jammed into this hallway. (At this point, Mr. McCloy entered the hearing room.) Mr. RANKIN. Were some of them--I will withdraw that question. Were some of these people from the news media from the press and others from the radio and others from the television? Mr. CURRY. Yes, sir; that is true, sir. (At this point, Representative Ford entered the hearing room.) Mr. RANKIN. Chief Curry, you said that Mr. Nichols came that afternoon. I call to your attention that we have information that he came there on the Saturday afternoon. Mr. CURRY. Perhaps it was, not the Friday. That perhaps was on Saturday. Mr. RANKIN. Yes. Mr. DULLES. I wonder if you could just summarize briefly where we are. (Discussion off the record.) Mr. RANKIN. Back on the record. In regard to Mr. Nichols, did you know whether or not he offered to represent or provide counsel? Mr. CURRY. Yes; he did. Mr. RANKIN. What did he say about that? Mr. CURRY. He said he didn't care to at this time. Mr. RANKIN. What did Mr. Nichols say about providing counsel? Mr. CURRY. He said the Dallas Bar would provide counsel if he desired counsel. Mr. RANKIN. That is to Mr. Oswald? Mr. CURRY. Oswald. Mr. RANKIN. What did Mr. Oswald say? Mr. CURRY. He said, "I don't at this time," he said, "If I can't get Mr. Abt to represent me or someone from Civil Liberties Union I will call on you later." Representative FORD. Did Nichols and Oswald talk one to another? Mr. CURRY. Yes; he was taken to see Oswald and he talked to him. Mr. RANKIN. And this all occurred at the meeting you have already described? Mr. CURRY. Yes, sir. Mr. RANKIN. Between Mr. Nichols and Mr. Oswald? Mr. CURRY. That is correct. Mr. RANKIN. When you had so many people of the news media in all of your corridors and throughout your police headquarters, did you discuss that with the mayor or any of the other authorities? Mr. CURRY. I don't recall that I specifically discussed this condition. Mr. RANKIN. Did you ask for any instructions or advice? Mr. CURRY. No, sir; I didn't. Mr. RANKIN. Did you do anything about it that you have not already described? Mr. CURRY. No, sir; I didn't. Mr. DULLES. Did it worry you? Mr. CURRY. Yes, sir; it did. I was concerned about it. Mr. McCLOY. Did you have a definite system of checking credentials of these people as they came in?