Mr. FRITZ. I told them not to move the cartridges, not to touch anything until we could get the crime lab to take pictures of them just as they were lying there and I left an officer assigned there to see that that was done, and the crime lab came almost immediately, and took pictures, and dusted the shelfs for prints. Mr. BALL. Which officers, which officer did you leave there? Mr. FRITZ. Carl Day was the man I talked to about taking pictures. Mr. BALL. Day? Mr. FRITZ. Lieutenant Day; yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Do you know whether he took the pictures or not? Mr. FRITZ. I feel like he did but I don't know because I didn't stay to see whether he could. Mr. BALL. You didn't know whether he took the pictures? Mr. FRITZ. I went on searching the building. I just told them to preserve that evidence and I went right ahead. Mr. BALL. What happened after that? Mr. FRITZ. A few minutes later some officer called me and said they had found the rifle over near the back stairway and I told them same thing, not to move it, not to touch it, not to move any of the boxes until we could get pictures, and as soon as Lieutenant Day could get over there he made pictures of that. Mr. BALL. After the pictures had been taken of the rifle what happened then? Mr. FRITZ. After the pictures had been made then I ejected a live shell, a live cartridge from the rifle. Mr. BALL. And who did you give that to? Mr. FRITZ. I believe that I kept that at that time myself. Later I gave it to the crime lab who, in turn, turned it over to the FBI. Mr. BALL. Did you put any marking of yours on the empty cartridge? Mr. FRITZ. On that loaded cartridge? Mr. BALL. On that loaded cartridge. Mr. FRITZ. I don't know, I am not sure, I don't think so. Mr. BALL. Was there any conversation you heard that this rifle was a Mauser? Mr. FRITZ. I heard all kinds of reports about that rifle. They called it most everything. Mr. BALL. Did you hear any conversation right there that day? Mr. FRITZ. Right at that time? Mr. BALL. Yes. Mr. FRITZ. I just wouldn't be sure because there were so many people talking at the same time, I might have; I am not sure whether I did or not. Mr. BALL. Did you think it was a Mauser? Mr. FRITZ. No sir; I knew--you can read on the rifle what it was and you could also see on the cartridge what caliber it was. Mr. BALL. Well, did you ever make any--did you ever say that it was a 7.65 Mauser? Mr. FRITZ. No sir; I am sure I did not. Mr. BALL. Or did you think it was such a thing? Mr. FRITZ. No sir; I did not. If I did, the Mauser part, I won't be too positive about Mauser because I am not too sure about Mauser rifles myself. But I am certainly sure that I never did give anyone any different caliber than the one that shows on the cartridges. Mr. BALL. Did you initial the rifle? Mr. FRITZ. The rifle; no, sir. Mr. BALL. You didn't. Who did you give the rifle to after you ejected this live cartridge?