Mr. LATONA. Very definitely, no. I might point out that actually what was visible was consistent, in the sense that even though there were no ridge formations available for purposes of making a positive conclusion, the indications were that the pattern types were there, were consistent with the pattern types which were on the hands of Lee Harvey Oswald. Mr. DULLES. As far as you know the conclusions of the Texas police authorities who examined these objects, were your conclusions the same as theirs, or was there any differences between you on this subject? Mr. LATONA. Frankly, I don't know what there conclusion was. Mr. EISENBERG. Mr. Chairman, I have no further questions. Mr. DULLES. Have you any questions, Mr. Murray? Mr. MURRAY. I have not. Mr. DULLES. I have no further questions. Thank you very much indeed, Mr. Latona. You have been very helpful. I have learned a great deal myself. Mr. LATONA. Thank you very much. TESTIMONY OF ARTHUR MANDELLA, ACCOMPANIED BY LT. JOSEPH A. MOONEY, NEW YORK POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUREAU OF CRIMINAL IDENTIFICATION Mr. DULLES. Mr. Mandella, will you raise your right hand. Do you swear that the testimony you give before this Commission will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Mr. MANDELLA. I do. Mr. DULLES. Thank you. Mr. EISENBERG. Mr. Mandella, could you give us your full name and position? Mr. MANDELLA. Arthur Mandella. I am a detective on the New York Police Department and I work at the bureau of criminal identification in that department. Mr. EISENBERG. Could you briefly outline your qualifications as a fingerprint identification expert, Mr. Mandella? Mr. MANDELLA. In 1945 to 1948 I was a fingerprint technician in the U.S. Navy. My principal duties were the classification and filing of fingerprints, the developing and photographing of latent fingerprints found at crime scenes, the comparison of latent fingerprints with suspects, and the searching of fingerprint files in general. From 1948 to 1953 I was employed by the U.S. Government as a criminal investigator. However, my principal duties were the lifting and developing and identification of latent fingerprints, also the preparation of fingerprint exhibits for court presentation. From 1955 to the present I have been employed by the New York Police Department and assigned to the bureau of criminal identification as a fingerprint technician and performing the same duties that I just outlined. During these past 17 years I have been examining not only fingerprints but palmprints and infant footprints as well.