Mr. DULLES. We thank you then Mr. Mandella, very much. I didn't catch your name. Lieutenant MOONEY. Lieutenant Mooney. Glad to have been of service. Mr. DULLES. Would you please express to the Commissioner on behalf of the Chief Justice and the Commission our grateful thanks to you for the work that you have done, and it is greatly appreciated, and also express on my own personal behalf--I know the Commissioner--my appreciation for the cooperation he has given to the Commission. Lieutenant MOONEY. Thank you, sir. We are glad to have been of service. Mr. EISENBERG. Mr. Chairman, may I say that these two gentlemen both interrupted their vacation to come here, and they have been working practically night and day in order to meet with our time demands for testimony. Mr. DULLES. We deeply appreciate that. Mr. MANDELLA. Glad to have helped in any way. Mr. DULLES. The Commission will stand adjourned until tomorrow morning at 9 o'clock. (Whereupon, at 1:10 p.m., the President's Commission adjourned.) _Friday, April 3, 1964_ TESTIMONY OF PAUL MORGAN STOMBAUGH AND JAMES C. CADIGAN The President's Commission met at 9:10 a.m. on April 3, 1964, at 200 Maryland Avenue NE., Washington, D.C. Present were Chief Justice Earl Warren, Chairman and Mr. Allen W. Dulles, member. Also present were J. Lee Rankin, General Counsel; Melvin Aron Eisenberg, Assistant Counsel; and Charles Murray, Observer. TESTIMONY OF PAUL MORGAN STOMBAUGH The CHAIRMAN. The Commission will come to order. The purpose of today's hearing is to take the testimony of Paul Stombaugh and James C. Cadigan. Mr. Stombaugh is a hair and fiber expert with the FBI, and Mr. Cadigan is a questioned documents expert with the FBI. They have been asked to provide technical information to assist the Commission in its work. This is just to advise you of the nature of the interrogation today. Will you rise: Do you solemnly swear the testimony you are about to give before this Commission will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Mr. STOMBAUGH. I do. The CHAIRMAN. You may be seated. Mr. Eisenberg, you may proceed with the examination. Mr. EISENBERG. Mr. Stombaugh, could you state your full name and your position? Mr. STOMBAUGH. Paul M., for Morgan, Stombaugh. I am a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, assigned to the hair and fiber unit of the FBI laboratory as a hair and fiber examiner. Mr. EISENBERG. What is your education, Mr. Stombaugh? Mr. STOMBAUGH. I have a Bachelor of Science degree in Biology from Furman University, Greenville, S.C., and I received a 1-year period of specialized training in the hair and fiber field in the laboratory under the supervision of the other experts. Mr. EISENBERG. How long have you been in the hair and fiber field? Mr. STOMBAUGH. Since 1960. Mr. EISENBERG. Could you approximate the number of examinations you have made in this field?