(Joe Tonahill hands paper to Jack Ruby.) Mr. TONAHILL. Sam ever get your glasses? Mr. RUBY. Not yet. [Reading.] "This is the girl that"--what?--"that started Jack off." What is this other word? Mr. TONAHILL. Culminated? Mr. RUBY. That is untrue. That is what I wanted to read. (Throwing pad on table.) Gentlemen, unless you get me to Washington, you can't get a fair shake out of me. If you understand my way of talking, you have got to bring me to Washington to get the tests. Do I sound dramatic? Off the beam? Chief Justice WARREN. No; you are speaking very, very rationally, and I am really surprised that you can remember as much as you have remembered up to the present time. You have given it to us in detail. Mr. RUBY. Unless you can get me to Washington, and I am not a crackpot, I have all my senses--I don't want to evade any crime I am guilty of. But Mr. Moore, have I spoken this way when we have talked? Mr. MOORE. Yes. Mr. RUBY. Unless you get me to Washington immediately, I am afraid after what Mr. Tonahill has written there, which is unfair to me regarding my testimony here--you all want to hear what he wrote? Chief Justice WARREN. Yes; you might read it. If you need glasses again, try mine this time (handing glasses to Mr. Ruby). Mr. RUBY (putting on glasses). "This is the girl"---- Mr. TONAHILL. "Thing," isn't it? Mr. RUBY. "This is the thing that started Jack in the shooting." Mr. TONAHILL. Kathy Kay was talking about Oswald. Mr. RUBY. You are lying, Joe Tonahill. You are lying. Mr. TONAHILL. No; I am not. Mr. RUBY. You are lying, because you know what motivated me. You want to make it that it was a premeditation. Mr. TONAHILL. No. Mr. RUBY. Yes; you do. Mr. TONAHILL. I don't think there was any premeditation, but you go ahead and tell it your way. That is what we want you to do. That is what the Chief Justice wants. Mr. RUBY. Not when you specify this. You are Senator Rankin? Mr. RANKIN. No; I am the general counsel for our Commission, Mr. Ruby. Mr. TONAHILL. You go on and keep telling it down to Caroline and the truth. Chief Justice WARREN. Mr. Ruby, may I suggest this, that if we are to have any tests, either a lie detector or, as you suggest, maybe a truth serum--I don't know anything about truth serum, but if we are to have it, we have to have something to check against, and we would like to have the rest of your story as you started to tell us, because you are now getting down to the crucial part of it, and it wouldn't be fair to you to have this much of it and then not have the rest. Mr. RUBY. Because the reason why, Joe knows from the time that I told Attorney Belli, and the story I wanted to tell on the stand, and Mr. Tonahill knows this isn't the time. The thought never entered my mind. He knows it. Mr. TONAHILL. I didn't say the thought entered your mind. I didn't say that. Mr. RUBY. You are inferring that. Mr. TONAHILL. Unconsciously, maybe, is what I meant to say.