Mr. RUBY. Never have. All I have ever done in my life--I had a very rough start in life, but anything I have done, I at least try to do it in good taste, whatever I have been active in. Mr. RANKIN. There was a story that you had a gun with you during the showup that you described in the large room there. Mr. RUBY. I will be honest with you. I lied about it. It isn't so. I didn't have a gun. But in order to make my defense more accurate, to save your life, that is the reason that statement was made. Mr. RANKIN. It would be quite helpful to the Commission if you could--in the first place, I want to get the trip to Cuba. Was that in 1959? Mr. RUBY. Yes; because I had to buy a $2 ticket, a pass to get through Florida. Mr. RANKIN. Did you have any other trip to Cuba? Mr. RUBY. Never; that is the only one that I made. I stayed at the Volk's Apartments with Mr. McWillie, lived in his apartment. Ate directly in a place called Wolf's, downstairs. Wouldn't know how to speak their language. I wouldn't know how to communicate with them. I probably had two dates from meeting some young ladies I got to dancing with, because my dinners were served in the Tropicana. One thing I forgot to tell you--you are bringing my mind back to a few things--the owners, the greatest that have been expelled from Cuba, are the Fox brothers. They own the Tropicana. Mr. RANKIN. Who are the Fox brothers? Mr. RUBY. Martin Fox and I can't think of the other name. Mr. RANKIN. Do you know where they are located now? Mr. RUBY. They are in Miami, Fla. They know everything about McWillie, I heard; and know the officials. I met McWillie because he came to the club, and he came to the club to look over the show. And you get to talk to people and meet a lot of different types of people. The Fox brothers came to Dallas--I don't know which one it was--to collect a debt that some man owed the Cotton Gin Co. here. Do you know their name, Mr. Bowie? Mr. BOWIE. Murray, or something. Mr. RUBY. He gave some bad checks on a gambling debt, and they came to visit me. The lawyer, I think, is Mark Lane. That is the attorney that was killed in New York? Chief Justice WARREN. That is the fellow who represents, or did represent Mrs. Marguerite Oswald. I think I read in the paper where he no longer represents her. Mr. RANKIN. He is still alive though. Chief Justice WARREN. Oh, yes. Mr. RUBY. There was one Lane that was killed in a taxicab. I thought he was an attorney in Dallas. Chief Justice WARREN. That was a Dave Lane. Mr. RUBY. There is a very prominent attorney in Dallas, McCord. McCord represents the Fox brothers here. They called me because the Fox brothers wanted to see me, and I came down to the hotel. And Mrs. McWillie--Mr. McWillie was married to her at that time--and if I recall, I didn't show them off to the airport at that time.