But I did say this. McWillie made a statement about me, something to the effect that "he is considered a pretty rough guy," this McWillie. He said, "One thing about Jack Ruby, he runs this club and no one runs over him." And you have a different type of entertainment here than any other part of the country, our type of entertainment. But I don't recall that. I could have said the sentimental feeling that I may have used. Representative FORD. When you flew to Cuba, where did you go from Dallas en route? What was the step-by-step process by which you arrived at Havana? Mr. RUBY. I think I told Mr. Moore I stopped in New Orleans. Sometime I stopped in New Orleans, and I don't remember if I stopped in Florida or New Orleans, but I know I did stop in New Orleans, because I bought some Carioca rum coming back. I know I was to Miami on a stopover. It could have been on the way back. I only went to Cuba once, so naturally, when I bought the Carioca rum, there was a couple of fellows that sell tickets for Delta Airlines, and they know me like I know you, and I am sure you gentlemen have spoken to them, and they were to tell me where to go in Havana, and have a ball, and I told them why I was going there, and who I was going to look up, and everything else. Representative FORD. They were Delta Airlines employees in New Orleans or Dallas? Mr. RUBY. No; in New Orleans. Evidently I went out to the Delta Airlines at Love Field and caught the plane. I may have taken the flight--here is what could have happened. I could have made a double stop from Havana on the way back in taking in Miami, and then taking another plane to New Orleans, I am not certain. But I only made one trip to Havana. Yet I know I was in Miami, Fla. and I was in New Orleans. And the next time I went to New Orleans, when I tried to look up some showgirl by the name of Jada, I stopped in to see the same fellows at Delta Airlines. Mr. RANKIN. Do you recall going up the elevator after the shooting of Oswald? Mr. RUBY. That is so small to remember, I guess it is automatic, you know. Mr. RANKIN. Did you have this gun a long while that you did the shooting with? Mr. RUBY. Yes. Mr. RANKIN. You didn't carry it all the time? Mr. RUBY. I did. I had it in a little bag with money constantly. I carry my money. Chief Justice WARREN. Congressman, do you have anything further? Mr. RUBY. You can get more out of me. Let's not break up too soon. Representative FORD. When you got to Havana, who met you in Havana? Mr. RUBY. McWillie. Now here is what happened. One of the Fox brothers came to visit me in Dallas with his wife. They came to the Vegas Club with Mrs. McWillie, and we had taken some pictures. 8 x 10's.