Representative FORD. Isn't it true, Mr. Chief Justice, that the same maximum protection and security Mr. Ruby has been given in the past will be continued? Mr. RUBY. But now that I have divulged certain information because I want to be honest, all I want to take is a polygraph test and tell the truth about things and combat the lies that have been told about me. Now maybe certain people don't want to know the truth that may come out of me. Is that plausible? Representative FORD. In other words, the Chief Justice has agreed, and I on the Commission wholeheartedly concur, that you will be given a polygraph test as expeditiously as possible. And I am sure you can rely on what has been stated here by the Chairman. Mr. RUBY. How are we going to communicate and so on? Chief Justice WARREN. We will communicate directly with you. Mr. RUBY. You have a lost cause, Earl Warren. You don't stand a chance. They feel about you like they do about me, Chief Justice Warren. I shouldn't hurt your feelings in telling you that. Chief Justice WARREN. That won't hurt my feelings, because I have had some evidence of the feeling that some people have concerning me. Mr. RUBY. But you are the only one that can save me. I think you can. Chief Justice WARREN. Yes? Mr. RUBY. But by delaying minutes, you lose the chance. And all I want to do is tell the truth, and that is all. There was no conspiracy. But by you telling them what you are going to do and how you are going to do it is too late as of this moment. Chief Justice WARREN. You take my word for it and the word of Representative Ford, that we will do this thing at the earliest possible moment, and that it will be done in time. It will be done in time. Mr. RUBY. Well, you won't ever see me again, I tell you that. And I have lost my family. Chief Justice WARREN. Yes? Mr. RUBY. No, no; you don't believe me, do you? Chief Justice WARREN. To be frank with you, I believe that you are not stating now what is the fact. I don't say you don't believe it, but I believe that I will be able to see you again and that we will be able to take this test that you are speaking of. Well, I think we have tired Mr. Ruby. We have had him here for close to 4 hours now, and I am sure our reporter must be equally tired, but we appreciate your patience and your willingness to testify in this manner for us. Mr. RUBY. All I want to do is tell the truth, and the only way you can know it is by the polygraph, as that is the only way you can know it. Chief Justice WARREN. That we will do for you. (Whereupon, at 2:50 p.m., the President's Commission recessed.) _Monday, June 8, 1964_ TESTIMONY OF HENRY WADE, PATRICK D. DEAN, AND WAGGONER CARR The President's Commission met at 9:25 a.m., on June 8, 1964, at 200 Maryland Avenue NE., Washington, D.C. Present were Chief Justice Earl Warren, Chairman; Senator John Sherman Cooper and Allen W. Dulles, members.