Mr. BRIAN. And we parked the car, and Hosty had parked over here. You know the ramp is wide here and the other side goes up here, he had parked over in here and he was coming across this way and we coming across this way and we met. Mr. DULLES. Where is the elevator which takes prisoners up where Oswald was shot? Mr. BRIAN. Right through here, right in here somewhere is where Ruby shot Oswald and this is a ramp from the Main Street side and this is the ramp to the Commerce side. And this is the elevator. Mr. DULLES. Where is the elevator? Mr. BRIAN. The elevator is right there. The CHAIRMAN. That is the prisoners' elevator? Mr. BRIAN. No, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Or the freight elevator? Mr. BRIAN. No, sir; that is the elevator going up---- The CHAIRMAN. Which one did you take? Mr. BRIAN. We took the elevator inside the city hall basement. The CHAIRMAN. I see. Mr. DULLES. Is there only one elevator there? Mr. BRIAN. No, sir; there are two side by side. Back on this side of the basement there are two elevators over here and one freight elevator right back on in here. But this is to the city hall this direction and this is the ramp coming in from Main Street and the ramp going up to Commerce Street. We drove in this ramp one way going in this way and one way going out. Mr. DULLES. Where are the stairs? Mr. BRIAN. In the basement? Mr. DULLES. You don't know? Mr. BRIAN. There are no stairs in the basement. I mean out here where the cars are parked. Right here is the ramp, there is a walkway going up but it is not a stairway and then it levels off and you go by through here, and the jail is right here, do you recall the jail being here, on the right by the doors as you go in. Mr. DULLES. I only saw the jail on top side. Mr. BRIAN. Well, the jail office is right there at the head of this ramp, the jail office where they book the prisoners through. Mr. DULLES. I didn't go in there. Mr. BRIAN. That is the door they brought Lee Oswald out of when he was shot, going into the jail office right there. Mr. RANKIN. There are no stairs from the basement to the third floor? Mr. BRIAN. There are stairs inside of the basement but there are none out here, inside of the basement of city hall but none out here in the parking area. Mr. RANKIN. Where are the stairs from the place where the elevators are that you took. Are there any stairs? Mr. BRIAN. I didn't take any stairs. Mr. RANKIN. No. You say you took elevators. Mr. BRIAN. Yes, sir. Mr. RANKIN. Were there stairs near the elevators? Mr. BRIAN. Back right over--let me get a pencil and draw the whole thing for you. That is about the way it is situated right there. Mr. RANKIN. Mr. Brian, we will call that Exhibit 839. Will you just briefly tell the Commission what you have done in making that exhibit now?