(At this point Representative Ford left the hearing room.) (Commission Exhibit No. 839 was marked for identification and received in evidence.) Mr. DULLES. That is the original before the notary public put his endorsement on it. Mr. BRIAN. Yes, sir; that went forward. The CHAIRMAN. Thank you. Mr. RANKIN. Mr. Chief Justice, Mr. Specter is going to examine these people about the velocity and so forth and I want to speak on--speak to him just a minute about the matter we talked about. The CHAIRMAN. We will take a break now. (Recess.) TESTIMONY OF ROBERT A. FRAZIER The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Specter, you may proceed. You have been sworn and you are still under oath, as you understand? Mr. FRAZIER. Yes. Mr. SPECTER. Will you state your name again for the record, please? Mr. FRAZIER. Robert A. Frazier. Mr. SPECTER. Mr. Frazier, you have appeared heretofore to testify about certain tests which you have conducted, but at this phase of the record, will you state briefly your occupation and your specialty, please? Mr. FRAZIER. I am a special agent assigned to the FBI laboratory, the firearms identification unit in Washington, D.C., where I make examinations of bullets, cartridges, gunpowder tests, bullet holes, examinations of clothing, and other similar types of examinations. Mr. SPECTER. In the course of your duties have you had an occasion to examine the clothing which was purportedly worn by President John Kennedy on November 22, 1963? Mr. FRAZIER. Yes, sir; I have. Mr. SPECTER. And do you have that clothing with you at the present time, sir? Mr. FRAZIER. I have certain parts of it. I have the coat, shirt, tie, and the bandages and support belt which he allegedly was wearing that day. Mr. SPECTER. Would you refer at this time to the coat, if you please, which, may the record show, has heretofore been marked as Commission Exhibit 393. And by referring to that coat will you describe what, if anything, you observed on the rear side of the coat? Mr. FRAZIER. There was located on the rear of the coat 5-3/8 inches below the top of the collar, a hole, further located as 1-3/4 inches to the right of the midline or the seam down the center of the coat; all of these being as you look at the back of the coat. Mr. SPECTER. What characteristics did you note, if any, on the nature of that hole? Mr. FRAZIER. I noticed that the hole penetrated both the outer and lining areas of the coat, that it was roughly circular in shape. When I first examined it it was approximately one-fourth of an inch in diameter, and the cloth fibers around the margins of the hole were pushed inward at the time I first examined it in the laboratory. Mr. SPECTER. Did any tests conducted on the coat disclose any metallic substance on that area of that hole?