Dr. WHITE. Well, it would be impossible for me to tell you all the people that were there, but I knew Dr. Carrico, Dr. Baxter, Dr. Perry and Dr. Zedelitz, Z-e-d-e-l-i-t-z (spelling)--I know they were there. Mr. SPECTER. Doctor who--what is his first name? Dr. WHITE. William Zedelitz. Mr. SPECTER. To what extent did he participate? Dr. WHITE. I don't believe that he had any--I don't know what he did other than the fact that when I was doing the cutdown he assisted me by just placing some tape over the catheters we used to do this with. Mr. SPECTER. Is he an intern as you are? Dr. WHITE. He is a surgical resident here at this hospital. Mr. SPECTER. Who else was present? Dr. WHITE. I can't be sure that I saw anyone else, although, as I say--many people were there whose faces I can't recall. Mr. SPECTER. Can you identify any of the nurses who were present? Dr. WHITE. Yes; one of the nurses--there were two there, Jeanette, and her last name--I don't know at the present time, and she is chief nurse in the emergency room. Mr. SPECTER. Doris Nelson? Dr. WHITE. Yes. Mr. SPECTER. Jeanette Standridge? Dr. WHITE. Yes; Jeanette Standridge was the other nurse. Mr. SPECTER. Do you have anything to add which you think might be of help to the Commission? Dr. WHITE. No; I don't. Mr. SPECTER. Thank you very much, Dr. White for coming. Dr. WHITE. All right, thank you. TESTIMONY OF DR. ROBERT SHAW The testimony of Dr. Robert Shaw was taken at 6 p.m., on March 23, 1964, at Parkland Memorial Hospital, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Arlen Specter, assistant counsel of the President's Commission. Mr. SPECTER. May the record show that Dr. Robert Shaw is present, having responded to a request to have his deposition taken in connection with the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy, which is investigating all facts relating to the medical care of President Kennedy and Governor Connally, and Dr. Shaw has been requested to appear and testify concerning the treatment on Governor Connally. Dr. Shaw, will you rise and raise your right hand, please. Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you give before the President's Commission in the course of this deposition proceeding will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Dr. SHAW. I do. Mr. SPECTER. Will you state your full name for the record, please? Dr. SHAW. Robert Roeder Shaw. Mr. SPECTER. And what is your profession, sir? Dr. SHAW. Physician and surgeon. Mr. SPECTER. Will you outline briefly your educational background, please? Dr. SHAW. I received my B.A. degree from the University of Michigan in 1927 and M.D. degree in 1933. My surgical training was obtained at Roosevelt Hospital in New York City, July 1934 to July 1936, and my training in thoracic surgery at the University Hospital, Ann Arbor, Mich., July 1936 to July 1938. Do you want me to say what happened subsequent to then?