Mr. SPECTER. But if her reaction was not that fast so that he was struck twice, of course then there would be a different situation, depending entirely on how fast she reacted. Dr. SHAW. I think if he had been struck first in the wrist and not struck in the chest, he would have known that. He only remembers the hard blow to the back of his chest and doesn't remember being struck in the wrist at all. Mr. SPECTER. Might he not have been struck in the chest first and struck by a subsequent shot in the wrist? Dr. SHAW. Yes; but that's hard to postulate if he was down in the bottom of the car. Mr. SPECTER. Dr. Shaw, have you been interviewed by any representatives of the Federal Government prior to today? Dr. SHAW. Yes. Mr. SPECTER. And who talked to you about this case? Dr. SHAW. I don't have his name. I perhaps could find it. It was a member of the Secret Service. Mr. SPECTER. On how many occasions were you talked to by a Secret Service man? Dr. SHAW. Once. Mr. SPECTER. And what did you tell him? Dr. SHAW. I told him approximately the same that has been told in this transcript. Mr. SPECTER. And prior to the time we started to go on the record with the court reporter taking this down verbatim, did you and I have a discussion about the purpose of the deposition and the questions that I would ask you? Dr. SHAW. Yes. Mr. SPECTER. And were the answers which you provided me at that time the same as those which you have testified to on the record here this afternoon? Dr. SHAW. Yes. Mr. SPECTER. Do you have any other written record of the operation on Governor Connally other than that which has been identified here in Commission Exhibit No. 392? Dr. SHAW. No; this is a copy of the operative record that went on to the chart of Governor Connally which is in the possession of the record room of Parkland Hospital. Mr. SPECTER. Do you have anything else which you could tell us which you think might be helpful to the Commission in any way, Dr. Shaw? Dr. SHAW. No; I believe that we have covered all of the points that are germane to this incident. Anything else that I would have would actually be hearsay. Mr. SPECTER. Thank you very much, sir, for appearing. Dr. SHAW. All right, you are welcome. Mr. SPECTER. Off the record. (Discussion between Counsel Specter and the witness, Dr. Shaw, off the record.) Mr. SPECTER. Dr. Shaw, permit me to ask you one or two more questions. Did you find any bullets in Governor Connally's body? Dr. SHAW. No. Mr. SPECTER. Did you find any fragments of bullets in his chest? Dr. SHAW. No; only fragments of shattered rib. Mr. SPECTER. And did you find, or do you know whether any fragment was found in his wrist or the quantity of fragments in his wrist? Dr. SHAW. It is my understanding that only foreign material from the suit of Governor Connally was found in the wrist, although in the X-ray of the wrist there appeared to be some minute metallic fragments in the wrist.