Dr. SHIRES. Yes; M.D. Mr. SPECTER. Would you outline briefly your educational background? Dr. SHIRES. Undergraduate education at the University of Texas in Austin, Tex.; graduate medical education at the University of Texas, Southwestern Medical School in Dallas; internship, Massachusetts Memorial Hospital in Boston, Mass.; surgical residency--Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas, Tex.; two tours of active duty in the United States Navy, first as research investigator at the Naval Medical Research Institute, National Naval Medical Center, Bethesda, Md.; second as Associate Surgeon, United States Naval Hospital Ship _Haven_--do you want staff positions? Mr. SPECTER. Please, give me those, as well. Dr. SHIRES. Subsequently, Clinical Instructor in Surgery, University of Texas, Southwestern Medical School, progressing through Assistant Professor of Surgery, Associate Professor of Surgery, Professor of Surgery, and Chairman of the Department of Surgery. Mr. SPECTER. What was your year of graduation from college, Dr. Shires? Dr. SHIRES. This was premedical, and at that time the war was on, so it was a premedical 3 years--it was 1944. Mr. SPECTER. And what year did you receive your medical degree? Dr. SHIRES. 1948. Mr. SPECTER. Are you Board certified at the present time? Dr. SHIRES. Yes. Mr. SPECTER. And, in what year were you so certified? Dr. SHIRES. I was certified by the American Board of Surgery in 1956. Mr. SPECTER. Did you have occasion to render any medical treatment for President Kennedy back on November 22, 1963? Dr. SHIRES. No; I was not in town at the time the shooting occurred. I was in Galveston, Tex., at the meeting of the Western Surgical Association. Mr. SPECTER. Did you have occasion to render medical attention and services to Governor Connally, Dr. Shires? Dr. SHIRES. Yes. Mr. SPECTER. Will you state briefly the circumstances under which you were called into this case? Dr. SHIRES. After the President and the Governor were brought to Parkland Hospital, it was determined--well--all aid was given to the President that was available, and it was determined that Governor Connally's injuries were multiple, the primary injury to Governor Connally was to the chest. Dr. Shaw, who is the professor of surgery--I don't need to tell their titles--you will have all that? Mr. SPECTER. Yes--correct. Dr. SHIRES. Dr. Shaw ascertained the condition of Governor Connally, instituted therapy, and had the hospital notify me in Galveston of the status of the President and also the Governor. Mr. SPECTER. Were you able to return then to Dallas in time to assist in the operative procedures on Governor Connally? Dr. SHIRES. Yes. Mr. SPECTER. And at approximately what time did you return to Dallas? Dr. SHIRES. Approximately 3 p.m. Mr. SPECTER. And what participation did you have in the operative procedures on Governor Connally?