Dr. SHIRES. He recounted, and as I remember this particular occasion, Mrs. Connally was in the room too, and reconstructing events, she related the story of her last conversation with the President, relating to him, that the reception had been warm and that she was glad he couldn't say that people of Texas and in Dallas didn't like him and admire him, and she was very pleased with the way things had gone the whole visit. Then, the next event that occurred was that she remembers hearing a shot, he remembered hearing a shot--he remembers turning to the right, he remembered being struck by a bullet, and his next thought as he fell over toward his wife was "They're going to kill all of us," and that's the last really clear memory that he expressed to me until he remembers vaguely being in the emergency room, but very little of that, and then he remembers waking up in the recovery room several hours later. Mr. SPECTER. Did he say anything to you about who he meant by "they"? Dr. SHIRES. He didn't say--he didn't comment on it at all. Mr. SPECTER. Did he describe the nature of the sound which he heard? Dr. SHIRES. I don't believe he did--no. Mr. SPECTER. Did anybody describe the nature of the sound? Dr. SHIRES. I think Mrs. Connally did. I think she thought it was, if I'm not wrong, she thought it was a loud retort, either a gun or a firecracker. I think she thought it was a bullet and I think he did too--thought it was a gun--I believe he did too. Mr. SPECTER. Now, did Governor Connally say anything about hearing President Kennedy say anything? Dr. SHIRES. No--no, he didn't. Mr. SPECTER. Did Mrs. Connally say anything about whether President Kennedy said anything? Dr. SHIRES. No, she didn't. She remembered Mrs. Kennedy saying some things, but she didn't remember anything about the President having uttered a word. Mr. SPECTER. What did Mrs. Kennedy say, according to Mrs. Connally? Dr. SHIRES. Oh, it's vague, even in my memory, but things to the effect that her husband had been shot and--well, that was really the essence of it. It wasn't phrased that way. Mr. SPECTER. Focusing on the time sequence--what did Governor Connally say as to the timing, number one, the time he was hit, and number two, the time he had heard a sound, and number three, the time he turned--those three factors? In what sequence did he relate them? Dr. SHIRES. As he recalled it, he heard a shot, he turned to the right and felt himself receiving a shot--in that order--in a matter of a few seconds. Mr. SPECTER. Where did he feel himself receive a shot? Dr. SHIRES. In the right chest. Mr. SPECTER. Did he make any comment about feeling anything in his wrist? Dr. SHIRES. No; I don't believe he did. Mr. SPECTER. How about feeling anything in his thigh? Dr. SHIRES. I don't believe he ever commented on that to me. Mr. SPECTER. Did he say anything else to you at that time about his recollections on the day of the assassination?