Dr. SHIRES. Yes; as long as it's on a tangent. Mr. SPECTER. Is it likely to receive a wound like that from a high velocity weapon of 2,000 feet per second and at about 160 to 250 feet? Dr. SHIRES. If it's a tangential wound, tangential wounds can be very strange. A large bullet can cause a small hole if its on a tangent or a small bullet can rip out a fairly large hole on a tangent. It just depends on the time of contact and the angle of contact with the skin. That's why it's awfully hard to predict. Mr. SPECTER. So that wound could have either been the first striking of the Governor from the bullet, or it could have been from a missile whose velocity was spent after going through President Kennedy and through the Governor's body and wrist and then caused that wound in the thigh? Dr. SHIRES. That's right, if it was a tangential bullet. Mr. SPECTER. Dr. Shires, have you ever been contacted by any representative of the Federal Government prior to today? Dr. SHIRES. Yes. Mr. SPECTER. And who was it who contacted you? Dr. SHIRES. I don't recall the name--it was two individuals from the Secret Service. They presented their credentials at the time to the administration and then subsequently to me and they were given copies of our operative reports, statements made by people concerned with the President and Governor at the time, and then subsequently one of those same two men from Secret Service returned and charted the entrance and exit wounds which you have described previously, or we have looked at previously in these five diagrams. Mr. SPECTER. Have you ever been interviewed by any other representative of the Federal Government before today? Dr. SHIRES. No; not in person. I discussed over the phone with the FBI--well, that was with regard to Oswald. I discussed over the phone what happened to the bullet that was taken from Oswald, but not with regard to the President or the Governor--no. Mr. SPECTER. On your prior interviews by the Secret Service, sir, did they cover the same subjects which you and I have gone over today, or were other subjects covered? Dr. SHIRES. No; essentially the same subjects. Mr. SPECTER. And was any different information given to you by the Secret Service at that time of either of those two occasions? Dr. SHIRES. No; the same as we have discussed here. Mr. SPECTER. Now, prior to the time when you were sworn in and the court reporter started to take the deposition in shorthand form, did you and I have a brief discussion about the purpose of the deposition and the subject matters of interest to the Commission? Dr. SHIRES. Yes. Mr. SPECTER. And was the same information given by you to me during the course of that informal discussion as you have testified to on the record here this afternoon? Dr. SHIRES. Yes; in less detail. Mr. SPECTER. And do you have anything which you would care to add which you think might be helpful to the Commission in its work? Dr. SHIRES. No.