Mr. SPECTER. That's fine. What happened when that gentleman came to use the men's room? Mr. TOMLINSON. Well, he pushed the stretcher out from the wall to get in, and then when he came out he just walked off and didn't push the stretcher back up against the wall, so I pushed it out of the way where we would have clear area in front of the elevator. Mr. SPECTER. And where did you push it to? Mr. TOMLINSON. I pushed it back up against the wall. Mr. SPECTER. What, if anything, happened then? Mr. TOMLINSON. I bumped the wall and a spent cartridge or bullet rolled out that apparently had been lodged under the edge of the mat. Mr. SPECTER. And that was from which stretcher? Mr. TOMLINSON. I believe that it was "B". Mr. SPECTER. And what was on "B", if you recall; if anything? Mr. TOMLINSON. Well, at one end they had one or two sheets rolled up; I didn't examine them. They were bloody. They were rolled up on the east end of it and there were a few surgical instruments on the opposite end and a sterile pack or so. Mr. SPECTER. A sterile what? Mr. TOMLINSON. A sterile pack. Mr. SPECTER. What do you mean by that? Mr. TOMLINSON. Like gauze or something like that. Mr. SPECTER. Was there an alcohol sponge? Mr. TOMLINSON. There could have been. Mr. SPECTER. Was there a roll of 1-inch tape? Mr. TOMLINSON. No; I don't think so. Mr. SPECTER. Were there any empty packets from hypodermic needles? Mr. TOMLINSON. Well, now, it had some paper there but I don't know what they came from. Mr. SPECTER. Now, Mr. Tomlinson, are you sure that it was stretcher "A" that you took out of the elevator and not stretcher "B"? Mr. TOMLINSON. Well, really, I can't be positive, just to be perfectly honest about it, I can't be positive, because I really didn't pay that much attention to it. The stretcher was on the elevator and I pushed it off of there and I believe we made one or two calls up before I straightened out the stretcher up against the wall. Mr. SPECTER. When you say "one or two calls," what do you mean by that? Mr. TOMLINSON. Went to pick up the technician from the second floor to bring him down to the ground floor to get blood. Mr. SPECTER. And when you say before you straightened the stretcher up, what do you mean by that? Mr. TOMLINSON. Well, we just rolled them out of the way where we had some room on the elevator--that's a small elevator. Mr. SPECTER. So, when you rolled them out of the elevator, when you rolled the stretcher out of the elevator, did you place it against the wall at that time? Mr. TOMLINSON. No. Mr. SPECTER. Were both of these stretchers constructed in the same way? Mr. TOMLINSON. Similar--yes. Mr. SPECTER. Will you describe the appearance of the stretcher with reference to what it was made of and how many shelves it had, and that sort of thing? Mr. TOMLINSON. Well, it's made of tubed steel with a flat iron frame on the top where you lay the patient and it has one shelf down between the four wheels.