Mr. COUCH. Sitting in the back. Mr. BELIN. Do you remember anything about your position as to the way you were sitting in the back? Mr. COUCH. Yes; I was almost in the middle and sitting on the--it was a convertible--and sitting on the back of the back seat, with my feet on the seat. Mr. BELIN. Your feet were on the seat--and you would be sitting on the top of the back seat? Mr. COUCH. That's right. Mr. BELIN. There were three of you in the back? Mr. COUCH. Yes; three in the back. Mr. BELIN. And were you in the middle or to the right or to the left? Mr. COUCH. I was about in the middle. Mr. BELIN. All right. Now, as you turned north on Houston, do you remember about how fast you were going? Mr. COUCH. Well, I'd say still that--of course, allowing for the turn--that the pace of the motorcade was about the same. We were clipping along and, as I said, I do have films after we had turned the other corner, and you could still see that the motorcade was moving fairly fast. Mr. BELIN. Were there any motorcycle policemen riding alongside the motorcade, that you remember? Mr. COUCH. Yes; there were. Mr. BELIN. Do you remember the names of any of those people? Mr. COUCH. No; I don't. Mr. BELIN. Were they two-wheel or three-wheel motorcycles? Mr. COUCH. Two-wheel. Mr. BELIN. Was there one riding alongside of your car? Mr. COUCH. Uh--he was. I remember distinctly one was on my right going down Main. They would jockey from time to time in different positions. As I recall, on Houston, I don't remember any beside us on Houston. As I say, they would fade back and forth. Sometimes they would be; sometimes they wouldn't. Mr. BELIN. All right. Now, as you turned onto Houston, you said that you heard what you described as a---- Mr. COUCH. It sounded like a motorcycle backfire at first--the first time we heard it--the first shot. Mr. BELIN. Do you remember about where your car was at the time you heard the first noise? Mr. COUCH. I would say--uh--15 or 20 feet from the turn--from off of Main onto Houston. Mr. BELIN. Fifteen or 20 feet from the turn? Mr. COUCH. We had already completed the turn. Mr. BELIN. After you had completed the turn, then 15 or 20 feet further on you heard the first shot--the first noise? Mr. COUCH. Because, I remember I was talking and we were laughing and I was looking back to a fellow on my--that would be on my right--I don't know who it was--we were joking. We had just made the turn. And I heard the first shot. Mr. BELIN. What happened--or what did anyone say?