Mrs. ROWLAND. I saw either the actual shooting on television of Mr. Oswald or either a rerun, and I saw his picture in the newspaper, but I don't know if my husband ever saw it or not. But he did--we heard on the radio the afternoon of the assassination that Lee Harvey Oswald had been accused of the shooting. Mr. BELIN. Did you or your husband know anyone by the name of Lee Harvey Oswald? Mr. ROWLAND. No, sir. Mr. BELIN. Did you or your husband know Jack Ruby? Mrs. ROWLAND. Not to my knowledge, I never have known him, and I don't think he has. If he has, he never told me. Mr. BELIN. Anything else you can think of? Mrs. ROWLAND. No, sir. Mr. BELIN. Well, we certainly appreciate your coming down here. You have been most helpful, Mrs. Rowland. One final thing. You have an opportunity to either come back and read what the court reporter has, the transcript after it is typed, and sign it, or else you can waive coming down and taking the time to read it and sign it, and have it go directly to Washington. Do you care to come down to read it? Mrs. ROWLAND. Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. If you like to, you have every right to do so. Mrs. ROWLAND. Yes; I would. Mr. BELIN. You will be contacted then, and you can come down and read it and make any corrections, if you like. Mrs. ROWLAND. Yes; could I, other than making corrections have it rewritten in better English? Mr. BELIN. No, I'm afraid my English at times isn't very good, Mrs. Rowland, and we have to let it go the way it is right now. By corrections, I mean anything where you feel the court reporter might not have accurately transcribed the words that you and I said here. Mrs. ROWLAND. Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. If either one used bad grammar, the English teachers will have to look down their noses at us. Thank you. Mrs. ROWLAND. Thank you. TESTIMONY OF RONALD B. FISCHER The testimony of Ronald B. Fischer was taken at 11:20 a.m., on April 1, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. David W. Belin, assistant counsel of the President's Commission. Mr. BELIN. Mr. Fischer, will you rise to be sworn, please, and raise your right hand? Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Mr. FISCHER. I do. Mr. BELIN. Will you please state your name? Mr. FISCHER. Ronald B. Fischer. Mr. BELIN. And where do you live, Mr. Fischer? Mr. FISCHER. 4007 Flamingo Way, Mesquite, Tex. Mr. BELIN. Is this a suburb of Dallas? Mr. FISCHER. Yes. Mr. BELIN. What is your occupation? Mr. FISCHER. I'm an auditor. Mr. BELIN. For whom? Mr. FISCHER. Dallas County auditor. Mr. BELIN. And where do you work? Mr. FISCHER. I work at 407 records building. Mr. BELIN. And where is the records building? Mr. FISCHER. That's in Dallas. Mr. BELIN. Where in Dallas? Mr. FISCHER. It covers one square block area bounded by Main, Record, Elm, and Houston.