Mr. SPECTER. And what is your educational background? Mrs. HILL. I was graduated from Wewoka High School and Oklahoma Baptist University in Shawnee. Mr. SPECTER. And what year did you graduate from high school? Mrs. HILL. 1948. Mr. SPECTER. And what year from college? Mrs. HILL. 1954, after two babies later. Mr. SPECTER. And is that a 4-year college? Mrs. HILL. That's right. Mr. SPECTER. And how are you occupied at the present time? Mrs. HILL. I taught 7 years in Oklahoma City public schools and for the past year and a half I have been doing substitute teaching for the Dallas Board of Education. Mr. SPECTER. And what is your maiden name? Mrs. HILL. Lollis. Mr. SPECTER. And what is your husband's occupation? Mrs. HILL. He is a consultant for Science Research Associates, lately IBM. Mr. SPECTER. And is there anything else that you would care to tell me which you think might be of aid to the Commission in its investigation? Mrs. HILL. No. Mr. SPECTER. Thank you very much for coming and giving your deposition. Mrs. HILL. Am I completely through with the Commission? Mr. SPECTER. I think this will be the end of it--we have all of the records, and to the best of my expectation--yes; but you could be called anytime. You have both the pleasure and the discomfort, but the distinction of having been an eye witness. Mrs. HILL. Well, I know, I have always been rather--I mean, it's not something you are--you are not proud to say it, but I think it was part of history and I was glad I was there, but because I got publicity, because--I think my children will be interested to know that someday that I was in it someway. Mr. SPECTER. Well, let me say, as to the best of my knowledge there are no further plans for the Commission to call you again. This transcript will be reviewed by me in Washington and by my colleagues in Washington and it is possible that you may be contacted again. Perhaps I might talk to you again by telephone or perhaps the FBI, or it is even conceivable the Commission might want to hear from you, yourself, in Washington, but my best estimate of the situation right now is that we have the basic information from you which we need. Mrs. HILL. I told the FBI the other day I did not want to go to Washington. I don't think I can take any more laughing at. Mr. SPECTER. Well, we won't call on you unless it is concluded that it is absolutely necessary. Mrs. HILL. Good. I was hoping this would do it. Mr. SPECTER. All right. Thank you very much. Mrs. HILL. Thank you. Mr. SPECTER. For the purposes of the record, this diagram which was used during the deposition of Mrs. Hill will be marked Hill Exhibit No. 5. (Instrument referred to marked by the reporter as Hill Exhibit No. 5, for identification.) TESTIMONY OF AUSTIN L. MILLER