Mr. JOHNSON. There is only two that show in that photograph, that I see. Mr. BELIN. Well, I see one, two right by the window. You see those two? Mr. JOHNSON. Yes. Mr. BELIN. Then there is one over here, which would be the west, by a box that is marked from "Scott Foresman & Company." See that there? Mr. JOHNSON. Yes, I see it. All I can say, at the time these hulls were mentioned, I went over there and looked. I don't remember them being that far out. Mr. BELIN. What I am asking is your best recollection. Let's take the hulls one by one. There are two hulls that appear to be right next to the bricks? Mr. JOHNSON. Next to the wall; yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. Do they appear to be in the approximate position when you first saw them? Mr. JOHNSON. Yes. Mr. BELIN. Does the one which is the farthest to the east appear to be as close to the next one lying at the brick wall as it was? Mr. JOHNSON. Well, of course, I couldn't remember exactly how far. It was my impression that they were all three next to the wall. I could have been wrong. Mr. BELIN. Your impression, at least the best of your recollection is that this third shell which is in the picture next to the book carton, was closer to the wall? Mr. JOHNSON. I thought they were all three closer to the wall. Mr. BELIN. When Captain Fritz told you to preserve the scene, what did you do? Mr. JOHNSON. Now you got to remember he told L. D. Montgomery, my partner, and I to preserve the scene, and we remained there near that corner. Now over to the right, which would be back toward the west of the window, there was a lunch sack--a brown paper bag--and some remnants of fried chicken, and a pop bottle. And I stayed closer to that pop bottle while we were waiting for the crime lab to finish their work. Mr. BELIN. Now there was a sack and a pop bottle. Was there anything else other than the sack and the pop bottle? Mr. JOHNSON. And the remnants of fried chicken. Mr. BELIN. The remnants of fried chicken, was that right by that window, or was it by another set of windows? Mr. JOHNSON. That was by some other window. Mr. BELIN. Now there are, I believe, on the south side of the building, seven pairs of windows? Mr. JOHNSON. I didn't count them. I couldn't say. Mr. BELIN. Would you say it was toward the east, or the west, or the center? Mr. JOHNSON. Where the sack was? Mr. BELIN. Yes. Mr. JOHNSON. It would be toward the west. I believe the next set of windows to my--I am pretty sure it was. Mr. BELIN. You said it would be in the second pair of windows counting from the east wall? Mr. JOHNSON. To the west. Mr. BELIN. Is where you found it, was it between the second and the third set of windows or between the first and the second, or right by the second? Mr. JOHNSON. Right by the second pair of windows. Mr. BELIN. Now you stayed over there? Mr. JOHNSON. Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. And your partner, Detective Montgomery, stayed over by the first pair of windows? Mr. JOHNSON. By the corner.