Mr. JOHNSON. I would say that the sack was folded up here and it was east of the pipes in the corner. To the best of my memory, that is where my partner picked it up. I was standing there when he picked it up. Mr. BELIN. You were standing there when he picked it up? Mr. JOHNSON. Yes, because the Crime Lab was already finished where I was, and I had already walked off to where he was. Mr. BELIN. Now there was a book carton located, one standing by itself in that picture--it would be located northeast of the pipes. Is that correct? Mr. JOHNSON. Yes. Mr. BELIN. Did the sack appear to be as long as that book carton was? Mr. JOHNSON. I didn't compare it to that book carton. Mr. BELIN. Let me ask you this. Do you remember book cartons there to the north of where the sack was found? Mr. JOHNSON. Yes, sir. Actually, these cartons were stacked all the way around this thing. I don't know, this book carton right here, unless that is the one that is stacked there, if I had a picture showing this whole scene--you see, there was some other cartons stacked in front of this window. Now I don't know whether this is the one that was behind them or not. This might be just one sitting out over there out of the way. Mr. BELIN. We don't have a picture here that shows all of the cartons, at least I don't have it right here at the time we are taking this deposition, that shows all of the cartons, but let me---- Mr. JOHNSON. Just from memory, I would say that that sack would be a little longer than those book cartons. Mr. BELIN. All right, what is the fact as to whether or not the penned rectangle on RLS Deposition Exhibit G--does any portion of that rectangle represent the place where the paper was found, assuming that is the southeast corner? Mr. JOHNSON. It looks like somebody penned that in to show the sack was laying there. That would show it unfolded. Mr. BELIN. Well, what you would say then is that the penned portion is actually longer than the sack before it was unfolded, is that what you are saying? Mr. JOHNSON. Yes. It shows to be here, if you are taking this as actual size. Mr. BELIN. Right. Of course, this is photographed at an angle and sometimes this can be inaccurate insofar as perspective. But would this penned in be the approximate same distance from the south wall that you saw the sack? Mr. JOHNSON. Well, I couldn't say exact distance. All I know is my partner picked that up right out of that corner, and how far it was from the wall in either direction, I don't know. Mr. BELIN. Would it be somewhere in the location of where the penned in rectangle is on RLS Deposition Exhibit G? Mr. JOHNSON. Yes; it would be in this corner, in the southeast corner of the building, and there were some pipes on that side. It would be in that corner--in the southeast corner of that building. Mr. BELIN. All right, is there anything else you can remember about that sack?