So, I and Barrett--Stringer went to another door, and I and Barrett--we stopped at the first one--we got out and walked to this first entrance that was nearest us, and as we walked into the door we met an employee of the theatre. Again, I do not know his name, but it was taken, and he pointed--I don't think I said anything to him--I think he told me, he said, "The man you are looking for--" Now, right here, Barrett and I became separated for a short minute or two. I think he was on the other side of the stage, and I'm not for sure, but this boy reported--he pointed to a man that was sitting about the middle--the middle row of seats pretty close to the back and he said, "That is the man you are looking for." And I started toward him and I had taken about two or three steps--down the steps. Mr. BALL. Down the steps from the stage? Mr. WESTBROOK. From the stage--yes, sir. Now, I feel sure, and at the time I think I knew--I'm not sure if I included that in the report, but I think Barrett was going down the other steps. I think we separated right there and he got on the other side. Mr. BALL. Which side were you on? Mr. WESTBROOK. I was facing the audience--I would be on the right side. Mr. BALL. Facing the audience--that would be on the right side? Mr. WESTBROOK. I was on the right side. Mr. BALL. And if you were facing the screen you would have been on the left? Mr. WESTBROOK. I would have been on the left. Mr. BALL. The man that was pointed out to you was sitting next to the aisle, if you were facing the screen? Mr. WESTBROOK. Well, he was sitting in the middle row of seats, and I don't know just exactly which--it was the third or fourth row from the back, it seemed like. Mr. BALL. And near what aisle? Mr. WESTBROOK. He was about the middle of the aisle. Mr. BALL. He was about the middle of the aisle? Mr. WESTBROOK. Yes; about the middle of the aisle. So, about the time I reached the first step or maybe the second step, I noticed then Officer McDonald--of course, the stage was still dim, but I could tell it was McDonald. I know him. He used to work for me when I was radio patrolman, and I seen him go down the aisle and this boy come up and made a contact, and they started struggling. Mr. BALL. You say "the boy come up," what did he do? Mr. WESTBROOK. He got up from the seat and they started fighting. Mr. BALL. Were the lights on in the theatre? Mr. WESTBROOK. Very dim ones; the picture was still running, but the lights were on very dim. Mr. BALL. They started fighting--what sort of fighting did you see? Mr. WESTBROOK. Well, I know that I seen Oswald swing at McDonald and McDonald grab him. Mr. BALL. Oswald swung with which arm, would you say? Mr. WESTBROOK. I would say it would be his left fist, because from the way he was sitting facing me--I would say it would be his left fist. Mr. BALL. Then what did you see?