Mr. BALL. It's unusual to use officers to showup with prisoners? Mr. BOYD. Well, I would say so, but I know that there has been officers. Mr. BALL. Is that usual to use Don Ables, the clerk, in a showup? Mr. BOYD. No, sir. Mr. BALL. It is unusual? Mr. BOYD. Yes. Mr. BALL. The usual thing is to have other prisoners come in handcuffed with the suspect, isn't it? Mr. BOYD. Yes. Mr. BALL. Do you know why that wasn't done in this case? Mr. BOYD. No; I do not. Mr. BALL. When did you first learn that officers were going to go with you and with Oswald into the showup? Mr. BOYD. When we got ready for the showup. Mr. BALL. Did you hear anybody direct them to go into the showup with Oswald? Mr. BOYD. No, sir. Mr. BALL. You say when you got ready for the showup, that would mean where--where were you when you heard that officers were going to take part in the showup? Mr. BOYD. Well, I guess it was down in the jail office. We took Lee Oswald down on the elevator and met the rest of them there in the jail office in the lobby there, to the best of my recollection. Mr. BALL. Before you went into the showup, did you search Oswald? Mr. BOYD. Yes; I did. Mr. BALL. And what did you find? Mr. BOYD. I found five .38 shells, I believe it was five. Mr. BALL. Live? Live shells? Mr. BOYD. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. What did you do with them? Mr. BOYD. Well, I put them in an envelope and put them with the rest of the property up there to be turned in. Mr. BALL. Did you put any mark on them? Mr. BOYD. Let me see--I can look and see. Mr. BALL. I will show you Commission Exhibit 592 in an envelope, will you take a look at that--at the cartridges? Mr. BOYD. Yes--I got my mark on them. Mr. BALL. You have your mark on all five of them? Mr. BOYD. I have my mark on the first three--yes, sir--I have my mark on all of them. Mr. BALL. On all five of them? Mr. BOYD. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. You put those marks on there, did you? Mr. BOYD. Yes, I did. Mr. BALL. Now, looking those cartridges over, can you tell me whether these five cartridges, which constitute Commission Exhibit 592, are the cartridges which you took from Oswald? Mr. BOYD. Yes; they are. Mr. BALL. And where were you when you put the mark on them? Mr. BOYD. I was back up in my office. Mr. BALL. When you first took them from Oswald, where did you put them? Mr. BOYD. I put them in my pocket. Mr. BALL. And after you were back in the office, you put a mark on them, did you? Mr. BOYD. Yes. Mr. BALL. And turned them over to whom? Mr. BOYD. Well, let me see--it seems like we had a drawer there where we had some more property, where we put it all in there--you know, where they had the other stuff--I have forgotten just exactly where it would be. Mr. BALL. You turned them over to someone in the police department? Mr. BOYD. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Now, the showup was conducted and what side of the showup were you on? Stage side or out front?