Mr. BALL. Mr. Sorrels of the Secret Service? Mr. DHORITY. And Mr. Holmes. Mr. BALL. And Holmes is what? Mr. DHORITY. Of the Post Office Department. Mr. BALL. What time did you bring him into Fritz' office? Mr. DHORITY. About 9:30 in the morning. Mr. BALL. What time did you leave there? Mr. DHORITY. Oh, I imagine it was shortly after 11 o'clock when Captain Fritz gave me the keys to his car and told me to go get it down there in front of the jail office to move Oswald down to the County in. Mr. BALL. What was said there in Fritz' office that day--do you remember any of the conversations? Mr. DHORITY. There was a lot of conversation. Mr. BALL. What did they talk about--the people in there? Mr. DHORITY. Well, they were talking to Oswald and Mr. Kelley talked to him and Mr. Sorrels talked to him--I don't think Mr. Holmes talked to him too much. I think he recorded most of the interviews, as well as I remember. Mr. BALL. Do you remember what was said? Mr. DHORITY. I couldn't remember all that was said. Mr. BALL. Did you make any notes? Mr. DHORITY. No, sir; I didn't. Mr. BALL. Was your deposition taken before? Mr. DHORITY. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. By Mr. Hubert? Mr. DHORITY. I don't know--it was some FBI man, as well as I remember. Mr. BALL. But you weren't sworn under oath, just your statement? Mr. DHORITY. Yes; I wasn't sworn under oath--no, sir. Mr. BALL. After they questioned Oswald, what did you do? Mr. DHORITY. Well, I believe we gave him a sweater to put on. I think it was kind of cool--one of his sweaters. Mr. BALL. Was he handcuffed? Mr. DHORITY. Yes; Leavelle handcuffed himself to Oswald just before I left the office. Mr. BALL. Had he been handcuffed during the questioning in Fritz' office that morning? Mr. DHORITY. I don't recall--I didn't have my handcuffs on him. Mr. BALL. Just before you left the office, Leavelle handcuffed him--did he put one cuff on Oswald and one on Leavelle; is that it? Mr. DHORITY. Yes. Mr. BALL. Fritz gave you instructions to do what? Mr. DHORITY. He gave me the keys to his car and told me to go down and get his car and back it up front of the jail door to put Oswald in. Mr. BALL. Is that what you did? Mr. DHORITY. I went downstairs and got his car, unlocked his car, and was in the process of backing it up there--in fact--I was just about ready to stop, when Captain Fritz came out and Leavelle and Oswald and Graves and Johnson and Montgomery came out the jail door. Captain Fritz reached over to the door of the car and I was turned around to see--backing it up--still had the car moving it along and I saw someone run across the end of the car real rapid like. At first, I thought it was somebody going to take a picture and then I saw a hand come out and I heard the shot. Mr. BALL. Graves and Leavelle were there beside Oswald, were they? Mr. DHORITY. Yes; beside Oswald. Mr. BALL. Oswald was between Graves and Leavelle? Mr. DHORITY. That's right. Mr. BALL. Any questions?