Mr. STOVALL. I would say for approximately 2 to 2-1/2 hours, if that long. Mr. BALL. Now, when you first went in, did Ruth Paine say anything to you about expecting you, or something of that sort? Mr. STOVALL. Yes, sir; when we first came to the door and knocked on the door, she came to the door and she says, and we identified ourselves, she said "I have been expecting you. You are here about this mess that's on television," and the "mess that's on television" at the time she was talking about was when they were talking about the President's murder. Mr. BALL. And Oswald had been apprehended at that time? Mr. STOVALL. Yes, he had, but he had been apprehended before we got there. Mr. BALL. Before you got there Oswald had been arrested and brought into the office? Mr. STOVALL. They had brought him into the office after I was there. Mr. BALL. Later on, did her husband come in there--come in the house? Mr. STOVALL. Yes, I guess we had been there approximately 15 minutes when Michael Paine came out and said he had taken off from work and he said he heard about the President's murder on television and he thought he would come right on out and see if he could be of any help. Mr. BALL. Did he say whether or not he had heard about it on radio or television? Mr. STOVALL. No, sir; I don't recall him saying where he said he heard about it--I don't recall him saying that. Mr. BALL. Did you ask him any questions at that time? Mr. STOVALL. No, sir; I can't recall asking him anything at that time. However, I did talk to him but I don't remember what the conversation was. Mr. BALL. Did a Mrs. Randle come in the house also? Mr. STOVALL. No, sir; she didn't. While we were loading this stuff into our car and into the sheriff's deputy's car, we were on the outside, and you know, going in and out, and she had stopped Adamcik and was talking to him and he came over and talked to me and went on back and talked to her and she said that her brother had taken Oswald to work that morning and she said that she had seen him put some kind of a package in the back seat of her brother's car. She told us it could have been a rifle--is what she said. She said it was either in a brown paper box or wrapped in brown paper. Mr. BALL. What time did you leave there that day? Mr. STOVALL. It must have been around 5:30, because it was--I believe it was 6 when we got back to the office. Mr. BALL. Did you bring somebody back with you? Mr. STOVALL. Yes, we brought Michael Paine--he rode with the sheriff's deputies and we brought Ruth Paine and Marina Oswald and Marina's two children. Mr. BALL. And did you take them into the offices of the police? Mr. STOVALL. Yes, we did. We took them into the Homicide and Robbery Bureau. Mr. BALL. Did you talk to them after that? Mr. STOVALL. No, sir; not that day--I didn't. We took them from there into the Forgery Bureau because there was so many people in our office up there. Mr. BALL. Into which bureau?