Testimony of L. C. Graves was taken at 3:10 p.m., on April 6, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. David W. Belin, assistant counsel of the President's Commission. Mr. BELIN. Would you rise and raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Mr. GRAVES. I do. Mr. BELIN. Would you state your name, for the reporter? Mr. GRAVES. My name is L. C. Graves. Mr. BELIN. What is your occupation, Mr. Graves? Mr. GRAVES. I am a detective with the police department, city of Dallas. Mr. BELIN. How old are you? Mr. GRAVES. I am 45 years old. Mr. BELIN. Were you born and raised in Texas? Mr. GRAVES. Yes, sir; I was born and raised in Camp County, October 8, 1918. Mr. BELIN. Where did you go to school? Mr. GRAVES. Leesburg--I mean to Pittsburg. Mr. BELIN. How far did you get through school? Mr. GRAVES. I finished 10-1/2 years of schooling in Pittsburg and Leesburg, then received a high school diploma after such time. Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do? Mr. GRAVES. Then what did I do? Mr. BELIN. Yes, sir. Mr. GRAVES. Oh, let's see. From there I went into the CCC camp. Mr. BELIN. For a period of several years? Mr. GRAVES. Let's see, I think a couple of years, approximately. Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do? Mr. GRAVES. I came out and stayed out about a couple of months and then I joined the Texas National Guard, and shortly after that it mobilized and I went into active service, at which time I stayed until I was discharged after the war. Mr. BELIN. Was this an honorable discharge? Mr. GRAVES. Yes. Mr. BELIN. What were your duties in the Army, say, generally? Mr. GRAVES. Well, I was in the Infantry, and I was a mess sergeant, and I cooked principally all the time I was in. Mr. BELIN. You were the one we all complained about when the food wasn't good? Mr. GRAVES. Yes; if you want to put it that way. I got a few complaints. Mr. BELIN. Then after your discharge, what did you do? Mr. GRAVES. After my discharge, I came to Dallas, I married and went to work for Interstate Theatres. First went to work for Railway Express Agency here and worked for a short period of time and then I went to work for Interstate Theatres. Mr. BELIN. What did you do for Interstate? Mr. GRAVES. Let me retract that. I believe I went to work for S. H. Lynch Co. first and later changed to Paramount Distributors, and they went broke, and then I went with Interstate Theatres, and that is where I was working when I went to work for the police department. Mr. BELIN. Were they all related? In other words, when you say Paramount, was that----