Mr. CONWAY. Oh, it must have been--I'm not quite sure, but I moved there in 1948, and I'm not sure--I moved there in September or October. Mr. JENNER. October of 1948? Mr. CONWAY. And I'm not sure whether they moved there before the end of the year or not, but it was just shortly after I moved there. Mr. JENNER. He was born October 18, 1939, so in 1948, at the time you are talking about, he would be approximately 9 years old. Mr. CONWAY. Approximately--yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. You had children at that time? Mr. CONWAY. I had one daughter. Mr. JENNER. Age? Mr. CONWAY. Well, at that time, I'm almost ashamed--I don't know exactly when my daughter was born--1933, I believe, so that would be 15. Mr. JENNER. About 15 years old? Mr. CONWAY. Yes. Mr. JENNER. So your daughter would have had little or no contact with Lee who was then 9 years old? Mr. CONWAY. No; very little. She was associated quite a bit with John. She and John were approximately the same age. I believe John might have been slightly older than her, maybe 1-1/2 or 2 years, I'm not quite sure. Mr. JENNER. Your daughter is now married? Mr. CONWAY. Yes. Mr. JENNER. What is her married name? Mr. CONWAY. Mrs. J. C. Bell (Spelling) B-e-l-l. Mr. JENNER. Where does she live? Mr. CONWAY. She lives on Santa Fe, I think, it's 2904. Mr. JENNER. Do you recall her telephone number? Mr. CONWAY. CI 4-2394, it would be--Circle. I'm almost sure that's right. Mr. JENNER. Is Mrs. Conway living? Mr. CONWAY. Yes. Mr. JENNER. How long did the family live there? Mr. CONWAY. How long did they live there? Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mr. CONWAY. I think almost 4 years--it was in the vicinity of 4 years. It might have been just a little over or a little under, but it was approximately 4 years. Mr. JENNER. And did these boys come to your attention? Mr. CONWAY. Oh, yes; John was a real nice kid and he was a friend of mine, you know, a young friend. I taught him to play chess. Mr. JENNER. You did? Mr. CONWAY. Yes; I did, and he made an excellent player, I understand. I think he's runner-up in the championship at Lackland Air Force Base. Mr. JENNER. Is that so? Mr. CONWAY. I think so--John is a fine fellow. Mr. JENNER. And because of your relationship especially with John Pic, you came to know the other boys, too? Mr. CONWAY. Yes, sir; fairly well. Mr. JENNER. In and around the neighborhood? Mr. CONWAY. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. But having in mind Lee Oswald, at the age of 9, and by the time he left, he was 13, you had less contact with him? Mr. CONWAY. I had very little contact with him, just to see him in the neighborhood was all. Mr. JENNER. Did that contact in the neighborhood enable you to form a judgment as to his general disposition? Mr. CONWAY. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Would you describe that and tell us something--some incidents about it?