Mr. JENNER. And you people as well would regard that as a substantial income; is that right? Mrs. MURRET. We people? Mr. JENNER. Yes, the Murret family. Mrs. MURRET. My family? Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mrs. MURRET. Yes, sir; we would think we were millionaires if we had that much money, but still I think we always did a lot with our money. Our main reason was for our family. That's why my husband wanted to educate his children. That was his main reason, because he knew how tough it is in the outside world, so he wanted them at least to have that much. Of course, these are children who liked to go to school and who liked to study. You take this girl out there, she is studying all the time. Mr. JENNER. You mean your daughter who is outside waiting for you now? Mrs. MURRET. Yes, sir; she is still studying, and Gene he is still studying. Like I said before, we all worked together to see that everybody got his chance. John was a top athlete in school, and then he went to St. Louis U. Mr. JENNER. St. Louis? Mrs. MURRET. Yes; he was one of the few boys that ever got a scholarship to St. Louis U. for basketball, but he only went there for about a year, and they wanted him to play at Loyola, and they kept after him when he came here on a visit, so he left St. Louis and went to Loyola. Mr. JENNER. Loyola of Chicago? Mrs. MURRET. No; Loyola of New Orleans. Mr. JENNER. I see. Mrs. MURRET. St. Louis University, the coach there wouldn't let him play baseball, and baseball was his love. He was a very good basketball player too, but he loved to play ball. He even played with the St. Louis Cardinals on a farm team, but he saw he would never really get anywhere as an outfielder, so he quit. Mr. JENNER. But he was good enough to play on one of the St. Louis Cardinals farm teams; is that right? Mrs. MURRET. Yes. He was a good athlete. He was good at ball, baseball and basketball, and in fact, he went to Murray, Ky. He was one of the boys selected from the South. They had a North and South game, and he was selected from the southern section. It was an all-star game of some kind. He just won a trip to Rome with the Swift Co. Mr. JENNER. He works for the Swift Co. now? Mrs. MURRET. Yes. He and his wife are leaving this Saturday. Mr. JENNER. How nice. Mrs. MURRET. He earned it. I mean, he didn't win it; he earned it. Mr. JENNER. Now, you say that while Marguerite was in Covington with the three boys in the summer of 1946, that Mr. Ekdahl continued in his travels in connection with his business? Mrs. MURRET. I assume he did; that's what he said. I don't know. Mr. JENNER. At least he wasn't there with her and the boys? Mrs. MURRET. No. Mr. JENNER. That was your information, that she had her boys at Covington in the summer of 1946, during vacation, but that her husband Mr. Ekdahl was not in Covington that summer; is that right?