Mrs. MURRET. Yes; they looked like Marina's suitcase, for one, because he didn't come into my house with any suitcase. Like I said, he just had that little bag with him. In fact, he only had maybe two pairs of socks and two T-shirts, and two pairs of pants, and nothing else. Mr. JENNER. But you did see a suitcase or more than one suitcase in the garage; is that right? Mrs. MURRET. I think I did. I think he did have a suitcase in the garage, and maybe two; yes, sir. I seem to remember those. Mr. JENNER. Do you have a ready recollection of that? Mrs. MURRET. Yes; I do. I think, if I remember right, that I saw two suitcases there, and that they were very nice suitcases. Mr. JENNER. Of ordinary size, would you say? Mrs. MURRET. I think they were of ordinary size; yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. Regular suitcases with the handle in the center? Mrs. MURRET. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Would you say they were straight sided and oblong rather than square? Mrs. MURRET. Yes; just ordinary regular clothing suitcases. Mr. JENNER. About 28 inches long? Mrs. MURRET. Yes. Mr. JENNER. But you didn't see any long package? Mrs. MURRET. No; I didn't. Mr. JENNER. By long, I mean something in the neighborhood of 45 inches long, or something like that. Mrs. MURRET. No; I didn't see anything like that. The only reason I noticed these suitcases was because my washing machine was in the garage, and I had to go out there to wash, to do my washing, and those suitcases were standing up, sitting right next to one another, and there were boxes, a bunch of stuff. Mr. JENNER. There were two suitcases, as far as you know? Mrs. MURRET. As far as I know; yes. Mr. JENNER. Could there have been three? Mrs. MURRET. There could have been. There could have been four; I don't know. Mr. JENNER. But your immediate recollection is that there were two? Mrs. MURRET. Yes; that's right. There were at least two suitcases. Mr. JENNER. But you didn't notice any wrapped package, any brown butcher paper, or regular delicatessen store paper? Mrs. MURRET. No; I didn't see anything like that. Like I said, though, when they put his things in the car, I was inside the house. Mr. JENNER. Did your boy do any hunting? Mrs. MURRET. My boys? Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mrs. MURRET. Well, the boy that's in the seminary, he did a little duck-hunting occasionally, but that's about all. Mr. JENNER. Did your boys ever have shotguns or rifles around your house? Mrs. MURRET. Oh, they had a small rifle in my locker. Mr. JENNER. Do you know what that rifle looked like? Mrs. MURRET. Yes; just an ordinary rifle. It wasn't an expensive rifle. It could have been just a plain shotgun, I guess. In fact, I think, if I can remember back, I think Gene, when he was duck hunting once, almost shot his hand off. Mr. JENNER. But you don't remember seeing any package, any oblong package, out in the garage among those things that Lee had brought in there? Mrs. MURRET. No; I didn't.